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			 Are there any good websites for current track takeout info? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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	Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson  | 
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			 Looks like Churchill and keeneland at 19% for tri, super, pick 3 and pick 4 is much less than NYRA whopping 26% for the same bets. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Everybody wants takeout to be lowered to a point where all parties can get a fair shake  | 
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			 NYS doesn’t understand that 26% takeout is not fair for the parties that include the bettors ? If they could get it down to 20% on the triple, super, pick 3 and pick 4, they would increase handle and make the fans happy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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	http://horseplayersassociation.org/2017Sortable.html Before posting this question yesterday, I spent a fair amount of time googling Churchill's takeout, with no success. When I tried googling "Gulfstream track takeout", the first 3 hits are restaurants. That, at least, was funny. 
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			Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson Last edited by Kasept : 03-11-2019 at 09:51 AM. Reason: minor wording change  | 
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			 Check out the late pick 5 take out @ Santa Anita(25%) compared to the highly touted and greatly appreciated take out on the early pick 5(15%). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I have spoken to a lot of "Grinders" and grizzled horseplayers that where not aware of the higher take out on the late pick 5 ![]() 
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