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Dunbar 03-10-2019 07:05 PM

Good source for track takeout data?
 
Are there any good websites for current track takeout info?

Kasept 03-10-2019 07:43 PM

TAKEOUT RATES

Alabama Stakes 03-10-2019 08:32 PM

Looks like Churchill and keeneland at 19% for tri, super, pick 3 and pick 4 is much less than NYRA whopping 26% for the same bets.

Dunbar 03-11-2019 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1123301)

Thanks, Steve, but I think that link takes you to an earlier year's data. It shows Churchill as 16% for WPS. It's 17.5%, right? Your link did lead me to this 2017 table:

http://horseplayersassociation.org/2017Sortable.html


Before posting this question yesterday, I spent a fair amount of time googling Churchill's takeout, with no success. When I tried googling "Gulfstream track takeout", the first 3 hits are restaurants. That, at least, was funny.

freddymo 03-11-2019 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1123302)
Looks like Churchill and keeneland at 19% for tri, super, pick 3 and pick 4 is much less than NYRA whopping 26% for the same bets.

I thought NYS sent the takeout levels at the tracks that under their jurisdiction? I didn't realize it was the evil people at NYRA.

Everybody wants takeout to be lowered to a point where all parties can get a fair shake

Alabama Stakes 03-11-2019 10:12 AM

NYS doesn’t understand that 26% takeout is not fair for the parties that include the bettors ? If they could get it down to 20% on the triple, super, pick 3 and pick 4, they would increase handle and make the fans happy.

philcski 03-11-2019 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 1123308)
Thanks, Steve, but I think that link takes you to an earlier year's data. It shows Churchill as 16% for WPS. It's 17.5%, right? Your link did lead me to this 2017 table:

http://horseplayersassociation.org/2017Sortable.html


Before posting this question yesterday, I spent a fair amount of time googling Churchill's takeout, with no success. When I tried googling "Gulfstream track takeout", the first 3 hits are restaurants. That, at least, was funny.

I think 2017 is the latest one they have done.

goodcopy 03-12-2019 03:42 PM

Some what decieving takenout
 
Check out the late pick 5 take out @ Santa Anita(25%) compared to the highly touted and greatly appreciated take out on the early pick 5(15%).
I have spoken to a lot of "Grinders" and grizzled horseplayers that where not aware of the higher take out on the late pick 5:eek:

Alabama Stakes 03-12-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goodcopy (Post 1123338)
Check out the late pick 5 take out @ Santa Anita(25%) compared to the highly touted and greatly appreciated take out on the early pick 5(15%).
I have spoken to a lot of "Grinders" and grizzled horseplayers that where not aware of the higher take out on the late pick 5:eek:

I know guys who only play the early one for that reason.


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