Oracle thanks for mushing Circular Quay

Seattleallstar · #1 10-09-2006, 10:10 AM

I knew it, in any case. CQ is my BCJ horse.

Funniest quote I heard about CQ is from Todd Schrupp, CQ showed that hes just a one turn sprinter.???? I nearly laughed my ass off, and I was like did he just say that

#2 10-09-2006, 10:15 AM

[quote=Seattleallstar]I knew it, in any case. CQ is my BCJ horse.

Funniest quote I heard about CQ is from Todd Schrupp, CQ showed that hes just a one turn sprinter.???? I nearly laughed my ass off, and I was like did he just
I didn't bet a penny on any Kee races, not one penny.
I knew he'd probably get beat as well. That stuff can beat anyone.
We just got a few extra bucks on him for the BC Juvy in price. He'll crush them like a grape.

zippyneedsawin · #3 10-09-2006, 10:26 AM

[quote=oracle80]

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

I knew it, in any case. CQ is my BCJ horse.

Funniest quote I heard about CQ is from Todd Schrupp, CQ showed that hes just a one turn sprinter.???? I nearly laughed my ass off, and I was like did he just
I didn't bet a penny on any Kee races, not one penny.
I knew he'd probably get beat as well. That stuff can beat anyone.
We just got a few extra bucks on him for the BC Juvy in price. He'll crush them like a grape.

Yeah, I was kinda glad he lost. Hopefully he'll be a decent price n BC Juvy day now.

Seattleallstar · #4 10-09-2006, 10:27 AM

i hope they make Stormello the fav..lol

2MinsToPost · #5 10-09-2006, 10:34 AM

In no way am I trying to start a fight here, but. Mike, are you saying that the horse that beat CQ, on paper, had no chance? I beg to differ in my humble opinion. Don't throw up the poly stuff, lets just look at it on paper leading up to the race.

7/4/06 at Hollywood, 8/13/06 at Del Mar and 9/6/06 at Del Mar.

And these are 2 year olds.

I respect your knowledge of the game Mike but this was a legit horse that won.

#6 10-09-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

In no way am I trying to start a fight here, but. Mike, are you saying that the horse that beat CQ, on paper, had no chance? I beg to differ in my humble opinion. Don't throw up the poly stuff, lets just look at it on paper leading up to the race.

7/4/06 at Hollywood, 8/13/06 at Del Mar and 9/6/06 at Del Mar.

And these are 2 year olds.

I respect your knowledge of the game Mike but this was a legit horse that won.

Curt you'll have to pardon me for not considering your opinion as good as mine on race watching and analyzing.
I saw all of Great hunter's races. Hes a one paced animal with some speed, basically a polytrack angle thats becoming obvious. In his last he had yet another no excuse suck up to horses who came back and got roasted yesterday at SA.
He had shown neither the talent nor the desire that CQ had, and if you wanna bet a grand on whether or not CQ finishes ahead of him in the Cup, please feel free to do so now. The BC will be on dirt, not tires. Anything you wanna bet just let me know. Certainly you will wanna do that if you think Hunter is a better horse right?

#7 10-09-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

In no way am I trying to start a fight here, but. Mike, are you saying that the horse that beat CQ, on paper, had no chance? I beg to differ in my humble opinion. Don't throw up the poly stuff, lets just look at it on paper leading up to the race.

7/4/06 at Hollywood, 8/13/06 at Del Mar and 9/6/06 at Del Mar.

And these are 2 year olds.

I respect your knowledge of the game Mike but this was a legit horse that won.

Great Hunter was losing to Horse Greeley and Principal Secret. Granted those two didnt perform very well yesterday, but they are two of the best Cali has to offer. Quay got lucky in the Bashford Manor when Chace City broke poorly. I think that Street Sense was the best horse on Saturday and I will play him back in the BCJ.

zippyneedsawin · #8 10-09-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

In no way am I trying to start a fight here, but. Mike, are you saying that the horse that beat CQ, on paper, had no chance? I beg to differ in my humble opinion. Don't throw up the poly stuff, lets just look at it on paper leading up to the race.

7/4/06 at Hollywood, 8/13/06 at Del Mar and 9/6/06 at Del Mar.

And these are 2 year olds.

I respect your knowledge of the game Mike but this was a legit horse that won.

I thought the winner was a contender before the race. ( I used him in my ESPN pick 6 contest)

#9 10-09-2006, 10:35 AM

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Yeah, I was kinda glad he lost. Hopefully he'll be a decent price n BC Juvy day now.

The tires favor horses who lope one paced, I think thats obvious. If a horse has high early speed or a huge burst of acceleration, they are screwed. And since most if not all good dirt horses are good because they posess one of those two traits it pretty much dooms them.
CQ wasn't even 2nd best there, the third horse was(he had a much tougher trip). I'm no action expert, but if you think CQ was running like he had in his previous three I have soem real estate in the everglades that will be right up your alley.
This past weekend's Poly stakes were pretty funny. I wonder how often Asi Siempre would beat happy and spun on dirt? How about Kelly's landing suddenly becoming "great" after two just awful efforts? Then of course there was the maiden who won the opening day stakes race.
Trainers may try it, but they sure as hell aren't gonna run back on it with horses who don't like it.

Seattleallstar · #10 10-09-2006, 10:36 AM

legit horse? what happened to Horse Greeley

#11 10-09-2006, 10:39 AM

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legit horse? what happened to Horse Greeley

He had a tough trip but was still not gonna win. Hunter had been chasing so-so's with no excuse good trips. He certainly isn't better than CQ on dirt, and that will be exposed in about 4 weeks.

2Hot4TV · #12 10-09-2006, 07:43 PM

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legit horse? what happened to Horse Greeley

Bounced like a rubber ball

Cajungator26 · #13 10-09-2006, 10:36 AM

[quote=oracle80]

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

The tires favor horses who lope one paced, I think thats obvious. If a horse has high early speed or a huge burst of acceleration, they are screwed. And since most if not all good dirt horses are good because they posess one of those two traits it pretty much dooms them.
CQ wasn't even 2nd best there, the third horse was(he had a much tougher trip). I'm no action expert, but if you think CQ was running like he had in his previous three I have soem real estate in the everglades that will be right up your alley.
This past weekend's Poly stakes were pretty funny. I wonder how often Asi Siempre would beat happy and spun on dirt? How about Kelly's landing suddenly becoming "great" after two just awful efforts? Then of course there was the maiden who won the opening day stakes race.
Trainers may try it, but they sure as hell aren't gonna run back on it with horses who don't like it.

Gator Bait?

#14 10-09-2006, 10:38 AM

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Gator Bait?

Les Miles?

In all seriousness I think CQ has a big chance to win the BCJ because he has no chance to win a triple crown race.

#15 10-09-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

I knew it, in any case. CQ is my BCJ horse.

Funniest quote I heard about CQ is from Todd Schrupp, CQ showed that hes just a one turn sprinter.???? I nearly laughed my ass off, and I was like did he just say that

Schrupp really said that? Even if it was real dirt I don't know if I'd have drawn that conculsion...we know he loves CD, expect to see him in the winner's circle 11/04/06.

#16 10-09-2006, 10:30 AM

I give CQ about as 15% chance of winning the BCJ. I think he good horse with some potential, but he hasnt done anything to tell me he is worth a low price going two turns in a nice sized field. I think we will learn that this horse is a nice horse, but not triple crown worthy.

nebrady · #17 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM

I think great hunter has a legitimate shot to win the juvenille. First of all, his sire is aptitude. So going the longer distances should not be a problem. Second of all, no one really knows how the horses on the new track at keeneland are going to do at churchill. But if you look, out at california, you would see that oneil has been training them at hollywoods new surface and winning a great amount at santa anita. So the theory that they will do bad at churchill, to me doesn't really add up. I'm looking forward to seeing him run on bc day. It could also be a big day and more of a national coming out party for oneil. With lava man and great hunter, oneil could have a great day. Will just have to wait and see them race. Thats whats great about horse racing.