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Old 06-28-2009, 10:02 AM
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Famous Name - Dermot Weld..
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Can't wait until you tell me some Euro is garbage, only for you to go bet the damn horse and for it to win...GREAT times!!
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Old 06-28-2009, 12:23 PM
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Can't wait until you tell me some Euro is garbage, only for you to go bet the damn horse and for it to win...GREAT times!!
Don't worry, Ill have a few of those!!
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Einstein might have something to say about that, but Weld usually comes loaded.
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Einstein might have something to say about that, but Weld usually comes loaded.
not a chance - I like him, he's a nice, honest horse, but he's not that good..
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Einstein might have something to say about that...

Watch his pathetic run in last year's Million before you put too much faith in Einstein in this race.
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Will Famous Name be an overwhelming favorite or is this some mystery horse?
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Famous Name - Dermot Weld..
That horse is a bridesmaid. Even if he's more talented than the home team he'll still find a way to lose.

Longshot possibilities: Seaspeak, Cowboy Cal, and Winchester.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:24 PM
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That horse is a bridesmaid. Even if he's more talented than the home team he'll still find a way to lose.

Longshot possibilities: Seaspeak, Cowboy Cal, and Winchester.
Fair point, he has had his reasons for losing, but he was extremely impressive today - I wouldnt bet Winchester with counterfeit...
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That horse is a bridesmaid. Even if he's more talented than the home team he'll still find a way to lose.

Longshot possibilities: Seaspeak, Cowboy Cal, and Winchester.
I would take the 1-2-3-4 finishers of the Manhattan over any of those three, even if their prices were lower. Seaspeak is an allowance horse who beat up on horrible competition at Lone Star and Cowboy Cal is an 8-9 furlong animal.

If Drysdale sets it up so that Marsh Side's 3rd off the Dubai trip is the Million, he'll be worth a long look. I thought he ran an excellent race in the Manhattan.

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I would take the 1-2-3-4 finishers of the Manhattan over any of those three, even if their prices were lower. Seaspeak is an allowance horse who beat up on horrible competition at Lone Star and Cowboy Cal is an 8-9 furlong animal.

If Drysdale sets it up so that Marsh Side's 3rd off the Dubai trip is the Million, he'll be worth a long look. I thought he ran an excellent race in the Manhattan.

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it is almost a guarantee for some illogical horse to win this year with the way both surfaces are playing at Arlington this year. Horses are going 1:16 on the lead on the turf and getting snapped by horses that are 5 wide. The synthetic has been impossible because they got some new tool and slowed the track down to a crawl and these jocks have no idea what is going on.

Its a rodeo right now
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it is almost a guarantee for some illogical horse to win this year with the way both surfaces are playing at Arlington this year. Horses are going 1:16 on the lead on the turf and getting snapped by horses that are 5 wide. The synthetic has been impossible because they got some new tool and slowed the track down to a crawl and these jocks have no idea what is going on.

Its a rodeo right now
If we get a soft turf and a suitable pace, wil the oldtimer Better Talk Now take one for old times sake?
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I always go with the international's - Jambalaya - Spirit One - Cima De Triomphe...2009
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If we get a soft turf and a suitable pace, wil the oldtimer Better Talk Now take one for old times sake?
No chance. Not even if the ground is boggy and they go :45.2
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http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...me/602812/top/

CONNECTIONS of Famous Name will now consider the Tattersalls Millions Irish Champion Stakes on September 5 following his easy victory at the Curragh on Sunday.

Second to Vision D'Etat in the French Derby last year, the Dermot Weld-trained four-year-old returned to form on rain-softened ground to take the Listed Woodies DIY Celebration Stakes by five lengths.

"Famous Name was impressive and did it in a good time, it was very, very pleasing," said Teddy Grimthorpe, racing manager to owner Prince Khalid Abdullah.

"That was over a mile so we will have to seriously consider his options.

"I think he likes a bit of cut in the ground and I don't think there is much doubt about that.

"The main thing is that he was absolutely spot-on yesterday and it was a seriously good performance.

"I talked to Dermot at some length last night and we need to see how the horse comes out of it, but the Irish Champion Stakes might come into it.

"The options look a bit more open now after a performance like that, which is quite encouraging."

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Here are the 2009 nominations for the Arlington Million & Bev D:

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/sites/a...llionXXVII.pdf

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/sites/a...lBeverlyD..pdf

I like to pay attention to the possible cross Atlantic shippers in particular.
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Here are the 2009 nominations for the Arlington Million & Bev D:

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/sites/a...llionXXVII.pdf

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/sites/a...lBeverlyD..pdf

I like to pay attention to the possible cross Atlantic shippers in particular.
I can honestly say I have not looked into it whatsoever, as to whether or not Carroll is even really pointing her there -- and though I might get blasted for even saying she'd have a shot regardless of who shows up...but I think Acoma would be plenty interesting if she kept running the way she is now and landed in the Beverly D.
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I can honestly say I have not looked into it whatsoever, as to whether or not Carroll is even really pointing her there -- and though I might get blasted for even saying she'd have a shot regardless of who shows up...but I think Acoma would be plenty interesting if she kept running the way she is now and landed in the Beverly D.
Acoma is a very nice filly, she's versatile and she can run on all 3 surfaces, I'm not quite sure she's up to tackling Forever Together just yet but she's not crazy impossible either.
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Acoma is a very nice filly, she's versatile and she can run on all 3 surfaces, I'm not quite sure she's up to tackling Forever Together just yet but she's not crazy impossible either.
Forever Together is running in the Diana, not the Beverly D.

I think Acoma is a giant mirage who has always needed a more than perfect trip to succeed. She's like the poor man's version of Rutherienne.

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Acoma is a very nice filly, she's versatile and she can run on all 3 surfaces, I'm not quite sure she's up to tackling Forever Together just yet but she's not crazy impossible either.
Ha, I know that holding off Pure Clan when she's coming back off the layoff isn't quite the same thing as taking over at the top of the stretch and holding off horses of the quality of Forever Together and the Euro gals, but there's something about the way she digs in on the grass that impresses me so much.

I value that quite a bit in my handicapping, and I like that she's got guts and doesn't like getting passed once she's in front.

Would have to think she'd be a fair price, too, given the likely competition. But now I'm getting ahead of myself
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