Lasix Adjunct?

[booner]

I have always wondered what the difference is between this and Lasix. Anybody have an explanation?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by booner

I have always wondered what the difference is between this and Lasix. Anybody have an explanation?

It is something that may be given with Lasix. KY Red, Vitamin b-1 and Calcium are a few things that can be used and called an adjunct. Pretty meaningless in the long run and not really useful information.

[booner]

Thought it was useless, but curiousity was killing this cat!!

Thanks for the info!

[phystech]

I thought Amicar was given as the adjunct.....

[docicu3]

Amicar is used to induce clotting and in the scenario you guys are discussung I would think this is pretty risky because clotting would take place everywhere not just in the lungs where the "bleeding" is supposed to take place.

As an aside I have always been skeptical of "bleeding" taking place in horses lungs but rather the human equivalent of pulmonary edema which "looks like bleeding" the lasix both increases capacitance (pipe size thus more pipe less bleeding but also causes urination through a "loop of Henle" mechanism) or the highest and most effacious way to move water fast.

I would think that Zaroxyln could be used as a Lasix adjunct as it is in humans for a more exagerated response...

Probably more than you wanted on this one but I have wondered about this subject for a long time!!

And Chuck.......No way A-Rod is accepted in Boston on any level any time!!!
What would be great would be if he remains unsigned because no team can afford him and ends having to sit out a year but then again I still hold out for the tooth fairy as well....

[Riot]

Amicar is used to induce clotting and in the scenario you guys are discussung I would think this is pretty risky because clotting would take place everywhere not just in the lungs where the "bleeding" is supposed to take place.

There isn't good documented efficacy supporting it's use as an anti-fibrinolytic.

As an aside I have always been skeptical of "bleeding" taking place in horses lungs but rather the human equivalent of pulmonary edema which "looks like bleeding" the lasix both increases capacitance (pipe size thus more pipe less bleeding but also causes urination through a "loop of Henle" mechanism) or the highest and most effacious way to move water fast.

Give pre-exercise, yes, the goal of lasix is to lower pulmonary artery pressure.

Doc, PM me and send me your e-mail, I'll send you a couple of good summary articles on current thoughts for possible causes of EIPH in the horse (other than strict stress failure of pulmonary capillaries secondary to increased Ppa) and treatments.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Amicar is used to induce clotting and in the scenario you guys are discussung I would think this is pretty risky because clotting would take place everywhere not just in the lungs where the "bleeding" is supposed to take place.

As an aside I have always been skeptical of "bleeding" taking place in horses lungs but rather the human equivalent of pulmonary edema which "looks like bleeding" the lasix both increases capacitance (pipe size thus more pipe less bleeding but also causes urination through a "loop of Henle" mechanism) or the highest and most effacious way to move water fast.

I would think that Zaroxyln could be used as a Lasix adjunct as it is in humans for a more exagerated response...

Probably more than you wanted on this one but I have wondered about this subject for a long time!!

And Chuck.......No way A-Rod is accepted in Boston on any level any time!!!
What would be great would be if he remains unsigned because no team can afford him and ends having to sit out a year but then again I still hold out for the tooth fairy as well....

Why the hate for A Rod???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by phystech

I thought Amicar was given as the adjunct.....

That too. There are others but most have negligible effect anyway...