Oracle thanks for mushing Circular Quay - Page 5

Cannon Shell · #81 10-09-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He finished second...obviously he wasn't second best.

Yer right....we will find out....assuming he makes it.

You know he has really done enough....maybe we'll retire him because he just he doesn't really like the polytrack and with all the tracks getting it we'll be better off in the shed....

#82 10-09-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Not to mention the fact that the people on the titanic had a btter trip than Street Sense did.
CQ never unwound likehe did before, his action was different, and he wasn't extending himself.

I watched the replay of Street Sense and the more I watch it the more I get pissed.

blackthroatedwind · #83 10-09-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You know he has really done enough....maybe we'll retire him because he just he doesn't really like the polytrack and with all the tracks getting it we'll be better off in the shed....

Preventive measures.

It's the least they can do. Fragile thing that he is.

#84 10-09-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Had to throw my two cents in after reading some of the posts.

Oracle: In this thread you have stated "a horse is screwed if they have a huge burst of accelleration". If that wasn't enough you blame the poly for CQ's loss when Pletchers assistant stated "he loves the poly surface here at Keeneland". CQ is a very small horse and may well be a come from behind sprinter!

You slam Kelly's Landing, a track record holder who has been displacing his palate lately!

You slam Asi Siempre; but ignore her glittering works over the surface!

You say Great Hunter is one paced, yet the horse has passed an average of FIVE horses, EVERY time he has run!

Then you say you are a better analysis and race watcher than someone else? What?

Euro: Street Sense was the best horse and will smoke these in Louisville. I wrote a prerace story on the Delmar forum extoling his many virtues, I think it is www.dmtc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6076 At any rate it can be accessed at, under Saturday Keeneland play (bellsbendboy). Be careful, if you look it up you will triple your play on the colt. Calvin knew he blew it and said as much after the race. A Charasmatic clone with a huge future indeed.

Scav: More handicapperscappers bounce, than horses, for sure. BBB

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?

Cannon Shell · #85 10-09-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Preventive measures.

It's the least they can do. Fragile thing that he is.

Wait ...maybe they'll fire the trainer and give him to Pletcher !!!

Pointg5 · #86 10-09-2006, 07:40 PM

I believe he's a closing sprinter, not the worst thing in the world, if he progresses he could be very competitive in 7f to 1 turn miles...

2Hot4TV · #87 10-09-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

legit horse? what happened to Horse Greeley

Bounced like a rubber ball

Danzig · #88 10-09-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Gotta say it, Steve... I love the Geezuztapdancingchrist comment... too funny. I'm a Geezuzmarymotherofchristo kind of gal myself, but I'll have to switch her up and try yours too.

yeah, those are good...i use jesuschristonacracker. doesn't make much sense....but does it have to?? my mother was a jesus h christer. never had the guts as a kid to ask what the h was for...woulda got a smack for sure!

Danzig · #89 10-09-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bababooyee

LOL

Note to self:

The "He started it!" defense only works in cases where "he" actually "started it". Unless, of course, you are a Marxist...then, you can start it and say "He started it!" and be dialectically correct.

No shame.

am writing this down....lol

Round Pen · #90 10-09-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?

Come on Now ORacle you know good and Well that 22 races over 3 days does not make a study. Give it the whole meet and see what happens.

#91 10-09-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

Come on Now ORacle you know good and Well that 22 races over 3 days does not make a study. Give it the whole meet and see what happens.

Round Pen, you are being partial.
Tell you what Pen, bet you a cheescake or pizza that YOU can't find a track this past weekend(fri-sat-sun) that had only one wire to wire winner.
Want that bet?
I doubt it, you are too smart to do that.
Don't drink the Kool Aid pen, its damn well relevant.

#92 10-09-2006, 07:54 PM

Go ahead Pen, find me one track that had one wire to wire winner i three days and shut me up then!!! You know you want to. You can't, and you know it.

disrespectnfool · #93 10-09-2006, 07:59 PM

Lord, what fools these mortals be!

#94 10-09-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Very good analysis. People often ignore the Dams side and place too much emphasis on the sire side.

Oh for god's sake an after the race lets make the pedigree fit analysis. Please cmon, this is just ridiculous.

And did I read some comments about capping on polyturf. Horses that have a single gear? Capping the uncappable... I think I read some stuff. Im sure I did. More stuff to come as people start paying attention to the stuff on a larger scale.

Do not take this the wrong way, I do not idolize or think anyone is always correct. But if we did not have OUR never wrong NY er, you think the board will still be as good, or fun? We need people to be contrarions. We need people to take the other side to find out if what we think is true has merit, or is weaker than we thought. These type of boards have a variety of people that add their own little flavor. Thats what makes it taste good.

Round Pen · #95 10-09-2006, 08:03 PM

Heck Oracle I dont care all though a Piece of Cheescake would be nice right now

Round Pen · #96 10-09-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Oh for god's sake an after the race lets make the pedigree fit analysis. Please cmon, this is just ridiculous.

I am the one who did the Pedigee Analysis and I posted it way before the race so Give me a friggin Break and At least know what you are talkin about before you speak

Cannon Shell · #97 10-09-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79448.html

Chew on that!!! LOL!!! Great analysis dude, especially ridiculing my contention about speed.
Thats a TKO for me, thanks Marty McGee for compiling it.
care to reply Bellboy?

Dont think that the Keeneland boys wont see the headline and make an adjustment. Got a feeling the track may be a whole lot more speed favoring on wed.

#98 10-09-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

I am the one who did the Pedigee Analysis and I posted it way before the race so Give me a friggin Break and At least know what you are talkin about before you speak

Im not speaking, Im typing.

And I did not see your post before the race. So I apoligize and will add I think pedigree analysis on horses that have already run races is analysis that involves really reaching if you have to use it to handicap a race that is tough. If you have to use pedigree analysis as a final tool to decide who will win a race or who is to be bet on, you should not be betting on that race imo.

Too many people write about pedigrees and have not a flippin clue as to what genetics is all about. Well I do know genetics, and this pedigree stuff looks like a great hobby for playing breeder and getting a clue for first timers, but WAY over used and silly if you really understand genetics.

And since you know genetics I have another question that I have yet seen answered by any pedigree person:

Why, genetically speaking, should the dam theoretically have more influence on the stamina of its offspring? Why? Since you know pedigrees, lets see how much you know about genetics and cell biology. Because you have to understand these or your pedigree stuff is astrology.

Round Pen · #99 10-09-2006, 09:02 PM

Good for you I am glad you Know Genetics. That and 75 Cents will get you a cup of coffee. You know what I know Horses and If you would have read the beginning of my post you would have seen that. I was simply stating a couple of facts on CQ's dams side.

Take your Genetics to the betting windows and lets see how well you do.

#**100** 10-09-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen

Good for you I am glad you Know Genetics. That and 75 Cents will get you a cup of coffee. You know what I know Horses and If you would have read the beginning of my post you would have seen that. I was simply stating a couple of facts on CQ's dams side.

Take your Genetics to the betting windows and lets see how well you do.

No answer. Uses pedigrees, does not even know genetics. And thats exactly why I dont take my genetics to the betting window, its way too difficult to transfer into performance. But you are able to do this...? And make money off it. No way.