Beyer Fig from Saturday

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

While I think your pronouns were OK, lesson is not spelled "lessen".

Main Entry: 1les·son
Pronunciation: 'le-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French leçon, from Late Latin lection-, lectio, from Latin, act of reading, from legere to read -- more at LEGEND
1 : a passage from sacred writings read in a service of worship
2 a : a piece of instruction b : a reading or exercise to be studied by a pupil c : a division of a course of instruction
3 a : something learned by study or experience <his years of travel had taught him valuable lessons> b : an instructive example <the lessons of history> c : REPRIMAND

And I thank you.

Outstanding!

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And I thank you.

Outstanding!

You're welcome!

[ArlJim78]

just when you think things have reached bottom, we're now being lectured on grammar and spelling. I'm in big trouble if this trend takes off.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

just when you think things have reached bottom, we're now being lectured on grammar and spelling. I'm in big trouble if this trend takes off.

I think the spelling was tongue-in-cheek.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

I thought this was the educational thread.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

I thought this was the educational thread.

VERY educational.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think the spelling was tongue-in-cheek.

yes it was, shouldn't have lumped the two together.

[MisterB]

Since we are in a educational mood. Can someone explain something about the top 3 year old beyer given to Flying First Class 107, in a 33K alw, and how anyone looked at this for his next start. By comparison, Teuflesberg posted a 100 Beyer number for winning the Southwest, and Hard Spun, who finished fourth, beaten three lengths at 50 cents to the dollar, received a 95, which, coincidentally, was the same number he posted when he won the LeComte by six-plus lengths a month back at Fair Grounds. Then the sudden fall off the earth effort by FFC in the Rebel.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Since we are in a educational mood. Can someone explain something about the top 3 year old beyer given to Flying First Class 107, in a 33K alw, and how anyone looked at this for his next start. By comparison, Teuflesberg posted a 100 Beyer number for winning the Southwest, and Hard Spun, who finished fourth, beaten three lengths at 50 cents to the dollar, received a 95, which, coincidentally, was the same number he posted when he won the LeComte by six-plus lengths a month back at Fair Grounds. Then the sudden fall off the earth effort by FFC in the Rebel.

FFC is a sprinter. The 107 was earned sprinting. He might be a very good one if they stop trying to ruin him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Since we are in a educational mood. Can someone explain something about the top 3 year old beyer given to Flying First Class 107, in a 33K alw, and how anyone looked at this for his next start. By comparison, Teuflesberg posted a 100 Beyer number for winning the Southwest, and Hard Spun, who finished fourth, beaten three lengths at 50 cents to the dollar, received a 95, which, coincidentally, was the same number he posted when he won the LeComte by six-plus lengths a month back at Fair Grounds. Then the sudden fall off the earth effort by FFC in the Rebel.

I just got my first true inkling of what it must feel like for A Rod when some amateurish pitcher throws him a big fat fastball right over the center of the plate.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

FFC is a sprinter. The 107 was earned sprinting. He might be a very good one if they stop trying to ruin him.

I kinda figured that part out, but how does someone take that big effort, and make sence out of it next time.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just got my first true inkling of what it must feel like for A Rod when some amateurish pitcher throws him a big fat fastball right over the center of the plate.

Thanks, that helps make sence of it all. Any other words of wisdom?

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I kinda figured that part out, but how does someone take that big effort, and make sence out of it next time.

Well, if they stop looking for roses now, you can bet him next time at 7f or less. That is all I would make of that.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I kinda figured that part out, but how does someone take that big effort, and make sence out of it next time.

I think this is your department.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think this is your department.

OK, by request.

It is sense not "sence"

Main Entry: sense
Pronunciation: 'sen(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Latin; Anglo-French sen, sens sensation, feeling, mechanism of perception, meaning, from Latin sensus, from sentire to perceive, feel; perhaps akin to Old High German sinnan to go, strive, Old English sith journey -- more at SEND
1 : a meaning conveyed or intended : IMPORT, SIGNIFICATION; especially : one of a set of meanings a word or phrase may bear especially as segregated in a dictionary entry
2 a : the faculty of perceiving by means of sense organs b : a specialized function or mechanism (as sight, hearing, smell, taste, or touch) by which an animal receives and responds to external or internal stimuli c : the sensory mechanisms constituting a unit distinct from other functions (as movement or thought)
3 : conscious awareness or rationality -- usually used in plural <finally came to his senses>

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Thanks, that helps make sence of it all. Any other words of wisdom?

Yes---the track at Oaklawn Park that day was extremely inside-speed biased.

Flying First Class, who's bred to sprint, made a comfortable lead, and dismantled a field by many lengths. I believe the soundly beaten 2nd place finisher won back. His final time was almost two full seconds faster than alw horses later on in the card.

Basically, a combonation of taking advantage of a track bias, and running a giant race, equalled a very fast time over a racetrack that was yielding slow times all day long. Also, Flying First Class is a Wayne Lukas trained horse, and his horses have been notoriously inconsistant over the last several years...and often run a big race and fall off form.

If you look at High Heels, she was routed by a Lukas filly in her prep for the Fantasy...in the Fantasy, she won by a large margin over Cotton Blossom and Cash Included...the same Lukas filly who destroyed her in her previous start ran dismally on that day.

Hard Spun, who raced on the same card, was wide on both turns, and taken off the pace for the first time....thus meaning he ran against the track...as opposed to FFC...who ran with it.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Well, if they stop looking for roses now, you can bet him next time at 7f or less. That is all I would make of that.

It would be interesting to know someone who actually handicapped the race, using this beyer number in determining their bet. Allot of people bet the horse, why? did these beyer numbers have influence on them??

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yes---the track at Oaklawn Park that day was extremely inside-speed biased.

Flying First Class, who's bred to sprint, made a comfortable lead, and dismantled a field by many lengths. I believe the soundly beaten 2nd place finisher won back. His final time was almost two full seconds faster than alw horses later on in the card.

Basically, a combonation of taking advantage of a track bias, and running a giant race, equalled a very fast time over a racetrack that was yielding slow times all day long. Also, Flying First Class is a Wayne Lukas trained horse, and his horses have been notoriously inconsistant over the last several years...and often run a big race and fall off form.

If you look at High Heels, she was routed by a Lukas filly in her prep for the Fantasy...in the Fantasy, she won by a large margin over Cotton Blossom and Cash Included...the same Lukas filly who destroyed her in her previous start ran dismally on that day.

Hard Spun, who raced on the same card, was wide on both turns, and taken off the pace for the first time....thus meaning he ran against the track...as opposed to FFC...who ran with it.

This information could have been very useful before adding Times Mistress to my Fantasy Stable.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Originally Posted by MisterB

It would be interesting to know someone who actually handicapped the race, using this beyer number in determining their bet. Allot of people bet the horse, why? did these beyer numbers have influence on them??

Sure, some people only know how to read the numbers that are bolded in the Form. Seems like a waste of paper to me. They should offer just the BSFs in a little pamphlet for those folks.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by MisterB

It would be interesting to know someone who actually handicapped the race, using this beyer number in determining their bet. Allot of people bet the horse, why? did these beyer numbers have influence on them??

I don't think it was just the number people were betting on...