California Chrome: Pennsylvania Derby

[Rupert Pupkin]

It looks like California Chrome will make his return in the Pennsylvania Derby.

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/cali...a-derby-return

[Arletta]

Yawn

[Pants II]

Does the media hound owner get to pick the other entries?

Boring. Hope the horse loses and runs dfl in the Classic. All of that **** talk and they're running two more races this year.

GTFO with your nonsense.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Does the media hound owner get to pick the other entries?

Boring. Hope the horse loses and runs dfl in the Classic. All of that **** talk and they're running two more races this year.

GTFO with your nonsense.

I wonder what their appearance fee will be? I would bet they are getting some incentive to race there.


EDIT: I read the article.....

In addition to the purse, the winning owner and trainer of all three Triple Crown races, the Haskell, and Travers get a $50,000 bonus per race for just showing up. Sherman and California Chrome's owners therefore would each earn $100,000 when the horse leaves the starting gate.

[casp0555]

It all boils down to being about the money...I hope the horse comes out of this okay.

[Rudeboyelvis]

I really couldn't care any less about this horse. Cool story to start out with, then the ownership destroys any sense of goodwill. Combined with the fact that he is basically a stripped down version of Big Brown in a crop of horrible 3yo's, even a TC would have rung shallow.

So go - get the money. I can't believe Sherman will even have the horse tuned up to win this and using it as more of a prep for November. I'd be betting against anyway.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Does the media hound owner get to pick the other entries?

Love the horse and always will. Too bad he is owned by greedy, classless dolts.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I really couldn't care any less about this horse. Cool story to start out with, then the ownership destroys any sense of goodwill. Combined with the fact that he is basically a stripped down version of Big Brown in a crop of horrible 3yo's, even a TC would have rung shallow.

So go - get the money. I can't believe Sherman will even have the horse tuned up to win this and using it as more of a prep for November. I'd be betting against anyway.

My sentiments as well. I am off the Chromie band wagon.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I really couldn't care any less about this horse. Cool story to start out with, then the ownership destroys any sense of goodwill. Combined with the fact that he is basically a stripped down version of Big Brown in a crop of horrible 3yo's, even a TC would have rung shallow.

So go - get the money. I can't believe Sherman will even have the horse tuned up to win this and using it as more of a prep for November. I'd be betting against anyway.

And he set the world record for destroying Good Will.

[10 pnt move up]

No "flying over the mountains" comments?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by casp0555

It all boils down to being about the money...I hope the horse comes out of this okay.

oh please.

the horse needed a prep, this is a good place for one. if they get a few extra ducats while running him, props to them.
geez.

if a horse ships its wrong. if a horse doesn't ship, it's wrong. can't win for losing.

[Indian Charlie]

This is not a horrible crop of three year olds. It's a crop of three year olds decimated by injuries. Shared belief, honor code, top billing and even possibly Cairo Prince can make next year slim pickings for California chrome.

[Pants II]

I don't dislike the horse...but I can't root for its success.

There hasn't been a story this pathetic since...well it's hard to remember.

A sheltered blowhard yokel gets the horse of a lifetime and can't transition to the spotlight. He obviously thought the spotlight was the comforts of home in his la-z-boy recliner where night after night he would start arguments with the flat screen that was conveniently set on Fox News.

Captain Betamale donned his cowboy hat and commoner giddy-up jeans and gave us a cutting room floor sketch of The Chappelle's Show "When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong".

Instead of listening to his wife while he was in the middle of his baby fit...he instead continued on his faux alpha male tirade and maintained his baby fit for a solid two days.

Then after coming out of an obvious bender he decides to go back to Captain Betamale and cries like a baby on national television.

Now Captain Betamale takes the easy paycheck (chicken ****) and ducks the Haskell/Travers/Pac Classic for the PENNSYLVANIA Derby.

He should be denied his man card permanently. Stay at home and let your wife attend. She wears the pants anyways and rightfully so...idiot.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Pants II

I don't dislike the horse...but I can't root for its success.

There hasn't been a story this pathetic since...well it's hard to remember.

A sheltered blowhard yokel gets the horse of a lifetime and can't transition to the spotlight. He obviously thought the spotlight was the comforts of home in his la-z-boy recliner where night after night he would start arguments with the flat screen that was conveniently set on Fox News.

Captain Betamale donned his cowboy hat and commoner giddy-up jeans and gave us a cutting room floor sketch of The Chappelle's Show "When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong".

Instead of listening to his wife while he was in the middle of his baby fit...he instead continued on his faux alpha male tirade and maintained his baby fit for a solid two days.

Then after coming out of an obvious bender he decides to go back to Captain Betamale and cries like a baby on national television.

Now Captain Betamale takes the easy paycheck (chicken ****) and ducks the Haskell/Travers/Pac Classic for the PENNSYLVANIA Derby.

He should be denied his man card permanently. Stay at home and let your wife attend. She wears the pants anyways and rightfully so...idiot.

I dare say you've made your point!

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

This is not a horrible crop of three year olds. It's a crop of three year olds decimated by injuries. Shared belief, honor code, top billing and even possibly Cairo Prince can make next year slim pickings for California chrome.

Shared Belief is a nice horse and would have made an impact in the TC if healthy.
Top Billing has a fair to good chance to develop into a decent type if he comes back sound.

I'm not buying the hype on either Honor Code or Cairo Prince. They were decent 2yo's in a crappy crop of 2 yo's and would be shocked if we haven't already seen the best of them, and would be equally shocked if they ever came back to that 2yo form.

[booner]

Originally Posted by Pants II

I don't dislike the horse...but I can't root for its success.

There hasn't been a story this pathetic since...well it's hard to remember.

A sheltered blowhard yokel gets the horse of a lifetime and can't transition to the spotlight. He obviously thought the spotlight was the comforts of home in his la-z-boy recliner where night after night he would start arguments with the flat screen that was conveniently set on Fox News.

Captain Betamale donned his cowboy hat and commoner giddy-up jeans and gave us a cutting room floor sketch of The Chappelle's Show "When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong".

Instead of listening to his wife while he was in the middle of his baby fit...he instead continued on his faux alpha male tirade and maintained his baby fit for a solid two days.

Then after coming out of an obvious bender he decides to go back to Captain Betamale and cries like a baby on national television.

Now Captain Betamale takes the easy paycheck (chicken ****) and ducks the Haskell/Travers/Pac Classic for the PENNSYLVANIA Derby.

He should be denied his man card permanently. Stay at home and let your wife attend. She wears the pants anyways and rightfully so...idiot.

Good stuff, Pants. Good stuff.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh please.

the horse needed a prep, this is a good place for one. if they get a few extra ducats while running him, props to them.
geez.

if a horse ships its wrong. if a horse doesn't ship, it's wrong. can't win for losing.

You are correct, I have no argument with the fact that CC needs a prep. The Los Al Mile or Awesome Again would fit but for less of a purse. My concern is shipping the horse cross country to run at PARX...like I stated, I hope the horse comes out of this okay.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by casp0555

You are correct, I have no argument with the fact that CC needs a prep. The Los Al Mile or Awesome Again would fit but for less of a purse. My concern is shipping the horse cross country to run at PARX...like I stated, I hope the horse comes out of this okay.

and like i said above, people have been criticized for not shipping. now they're getting criticized for shipping.
it's ridiculous.
if people have issues with the owners, i can understand that. but to suggest they're greedy or shouldn't ship isn't valid criticism.
people wanted him to come east...now he is, but to the wrong spot. so now it's greed? or he suddenly shouldn't ship after having done so just fine before?
people complained when they mentioned possibly skipping the santa anita derby. they decided to run-that was being a good sport, but now if they run it's greed?
we complain that horses don't run enough, then we complain when they run too much. oh, he's too young to retire, oh, he's too old to run.
you're damned no matter what you do.

http://www.taleswithmorals.com/aesop...the-donkey.htm

[SundayStar]

i hope he wins the pa derby big and then wins the bc classic

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Shared Belief is a nice horse and would have made an impact in the TC if healthy.
Top Billing has a fair to good chance to develop into a decent type if he comes back sound.

I'm not buying the hype on either Honor Code or Cairo Prince. They were decent 2yo's in a crappy crop of 2 yo's and would be shocked if we haven't already seen the best of them, and would be equally shocked if they ever came back to that 2yo form.

I agree that Cairo Prince was hyped, but who knows. He looked like he had room for improvement.

As for Honor Code, it's not unusual for AP Indy progeny to improve with age and racing.