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Old 08-22-2014, 03:36 PM
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oh please.

the horse needed a prep, this is a good place for one. if they get a few extra ducats while running him, props to them.
geez.

if a horse ships its wrong. if a horse doesn't ship, it's wrong. can't win for losing.
You are correct, I have no argument with the fact that CC needs a prep. The Los Al Mile or Awesome Again would fit but for less of a purse. My concern is shipping the horse cross country to run at PARX...like I stated, I hope the horse comes out of this okay.
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Old 08-22-2014, 03:52 PM
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You are correct, I have no argument with the fact that CC needs a prep. The Los Al Mile or Awesome Again would fit but for less of a purse. My concern is shipping the horse cross country to run at PARX...like I stated, I hope the horse comes out of this okay.
and like i said above, people have been criticized for not shipping. now they're getting criticized for shipping.
it's ridiculous.
if people have issues with the owners, i can understand that. but to suggest they're greedy or shouldn't ship isn't valid criticism.
people wanted him to come east...now he is, but to the wrong spot. so now it's greed? or he suddenly shouldn't ship after having done so just fine before?
people complained when they mentioned possibly skipping the santa anita derby. they decided to run-that was being a good sport, but now if they run it's greed?
we complain that horses don't run enough, then we complain when they run too much. oh, he's too young to retire, oh, he's too old to run.
you're damned no matter what you do.

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Old 08-22-2014, 04:25 PM
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i hope he wins the pa derby big and then wins the bc classic
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:41 AM
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i hope he wins the pa derby big and then wins the bc classic
It wouldn't break my heart if won both of them. He's a gutty horse.
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:48 AM
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I don't see it as a weird choice- the horse is a dual classic winner, and short of winning the Breeders' Cup Classic, I don't see how his value as a stud is going to change much one way or another, regardless of what happens here on out. So why not run him in what they hope will be a soft spot, where they're guaranteed a pretty generous check for both them and their trainer?

As for turning down the 51% sale of him, one of the requirements was a change of trainer, and regardless of how thoroughly media unsavvy they are, they've been quite loyal to Sherman. In a business where talented horses get bought up the second they show ability and handed off to big trainers that already have dozens of good horses, I can't dislike owners that stay with the trainer who took them on to begin with.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:01 AM
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It wouldn't break my heart if won both of them. He's a gutty horse.
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I don't see it as a weird choice- the horse is a dual classic winner, and short of winning the Breeders' Cup Classic, I don't see how his value as a stud is going to change much one way or another, regardless of what happens here on out. So why not run him in what they hope will be a soft spot, where they're guaranteed a pretty generous check for both them and their trainer?

As for turning down the 51% sale of him, one of the requirements was a change of trainer, and regardless of how thoroughly media unsavvy they are, they've been quite loyal to Sherman. In a business where talented horses get bought up the second they show ability and handed off to big trainers that already have dozens of good horses, I can't dislike owners that stay with the trainer who took them on to begin with.
And agreed. Well, at least I can't dislike them for that.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:17 AM
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I don't see it as a weird choice- the horse is a dual classic winner, and short of winning the Breeders' Cup Classic, I don't see how his value as a stud is going to change much one way or another, regardless of what happens here on out. So why not run him in what they hope will be a soft spot, where they're guaranteed a pretty generous check for both them and their trainer?

As for turning down the 51% sale of him, one of the requirements was a change of trainer, and regardless of how thoroughly media unsavvy they are, they've been quite loyal to Sherman. In a business where talented horses get bought up the second they show ability and handed off to big trainers that already have dozens of good horses, I can't dislike owners that stay with the trainer who took them on to begin with.
it's not a weird choice at all. it was a smart move in every respect.
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Old 08-28-2014, 02:40 PM
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Chrome might not be the only horse coming in from the West.

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