Police state reached

[GenuineRisk]

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

The problem is not the 6'4, 295 pound guy that committed the strong-arm robbery and then physically assaulted a police officer (punched the officer in the face and fractured his eye socket). The problem is the police. I see.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that the police are perfect. I'm not saying there aren't some bad cops out there. But in this case, I haven't seen anything so far that would show that this police officer did anything wrong. I'm sure that won't stop Eric Holder from trying to prosecute the guy just to appease the black community.

There was another brilliant insight in that opinion article. The article says the problem is not the people rioting and looting. The problem is the police officers who are trying to stop the rioting and looting. Ok. Whatever you say.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

saw this yesterday, be sure to click on the post link to see the whole article by the cop.
so, if you get your head bashed in by a cop...well, you had it coming.

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/c...-brutality.php

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

saw this yesterday, be sure to click on the post link to see the whole article by the cop.
so, if you get your head bashed in by a cop...well, you had it coming.

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/c...-brutality.php

Yeah, that Wa-Po op-Ed was bananas.

And our idiot NYC mayor told people to let cops arrest them and sort it out in court. Because that always works out so well for poor people. Gadzooks.

Longform.org posted a link to this piece on Commentary magazine's website:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-watts/

It's a 1966 article about the 1965 Watts riots/protests. It's a fascinating, albeit depressing read, because it's been almost 50 years and nothing has changed. But worth the time to read.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

The significance of the events in Missouri extends beyond the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men.

Really? So police are just killing black men willy nilly nationwide? For no reason? Golly . . .

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Really? So police are just killing black men willy nilly nationwide? For no reason? Golly . . .

ALLAH AKBAR!

All you can do is facepalm. Repeatedly.

[OldDog]

Back to the original point of this thread

Trifecta: Gee, Officer Krupke, You've got Humvee, a Helo, a Drone and an M-16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs0...ature=youtu.be

[Rudeboyelvis]

Congrats! Your tiny town has an MRAP and is ready for war!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ready-for-war/

Towns and counties that have recently acquired an MRAP:

Lyon County, Nev. (population: 51,000)
Watertown, Conn. (population 22,000)
Walla Walla, Wash. (population: 32,000)
Michigan City, Ind. (population: 31,000)
Mason City, Iowa (population: 28,000)
Madison, Ind. (population 12,000)
Willimantic, Conn. (population: 18,000)
Cape Girardeau, Mo. (population: 39,000)
Story County, Iowa (population: 91,000)
Manteca, Calif. (population: 71,000)
Jasper County, Iowa (population: 36,000)
Justice, Ill. (population: 13,000)
Dodge County, Wis. (population: 88,000)
Roanoke Rapids, N.C. (population: 16,000)
Nampa, Idaho (population: 83,900)
Merrillville, Ind. (population: 35,600)
St. Cloud, Minn. (population: 66,000)
Warren County, N.Y. (population: 65,500)
North Augusta, S.C. (population: 22,000)
Eureka, Calif. (population 27,000)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Congrats! Your tiny town has an MRAP and is ready for war!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ready-for-war/

Towns and counties that have recently acquired an MRAP:

Lyon County, Nev. (population: 51,000)
Watertown, Conn. (population 22,000)
Walla Walla, Wash. (population: 32,000)
Michigan City, Ind. (population: 31,000)
Mason City, Iowa (population: 28,000)
Madison, Ind. (population 12,000)
Willimantic, Conn. (population: 18,000)
Cape Girardeau, Mo. (population: 39,000)
Story County, Iowa (population: 91,000)
Manteca, Calif. (population: 71,000)
Jasper County, Iowa (population: 36,000)
Justice, Ill. (population: 13,000)
Dodge County, Wis. (population: 88,000)
Roanoke Rapids, N.C. (population: 16,000)
Nampa, Idaho (population: 83,900)
Merrillville, Ind. (population: 35,600)
St. Cloud, Minn. (population: 66,000)
Warren County, N.Y. (population: 65,500)
North Augusta, S.C. (population: 22,000)
Eureka, Calif. (population 27,000)

it's beyond crazy. and most of the time, the swat teams in these hick towns use their military surplus and their tanks and the like to do drug raids. and let's not even get into all the times that they 'hit' the wrong house.
just unbelievable.
i've seen one tim ever where the police were outgunned, when that guy stole that tank in california and went on a rampage.
there is no reason at all for these communities, or really any in this country, to have such things.
christ, this is the u.s., not some uncivilized backwater full of isis-type groups.

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Op Ed's from Al Jazeera?
the tone is 100% on point. what is misleading is that this "cult of compliance" has been ingrained into the society since 9/11.

It started off, innocently enough, with absurd TSA intrusions of personal liberty, in the "name of security", and are now part and parcel of everyday life.- "Put your shampoo in a baggie and make sure it is not 3.1 oz. or the baggie is no larger than a quart". "Agree to a full body scan or a groping session." "Take your shoes off, leave your shoes on, tap dance, stop tap dancing" - on and on.. It's now completely accepted and appreciated as "saving us from the devil" when really it was just the beginning of the complacency indoctrination process.
Add in the DHS (easily worth every penny of the 60 BILLION dollars a year we spend on "it), the Patriot Act, and how the expanded roles the NDAA plays in circumventing the constitution, of course all in the "name of security" and you get a greater erosion of liberty.

Now militarize the police so that it becomes accepted that we can expect them to basically "be an army" for our "security".

It's been going on right under your noses.

Ignore it, pay no attention.

"Hey look over there, it's another Ice Bucket Challenge!!!!"

yeah, the whole patriot act, you're with us or against us type crap.

don't you want to be safe?

absolutely unreal how things have gotten. but hey, at least defense contractors are selling stuff, right?

a few years ago, my youngest managed to hit another car in the store parking lot. he went in and had them call the other cars owner.
so, i'm standing in front of the folks car with my son, trying to calm him down. he's embarrassed and a bit upset. the car owners were at the back of the car talking to the town policeman who was taking the report. it's cut and dried.
i look up, and see another cop coming up. i turn to my son and said 'oh, give me a break' he looks at me, i said 'another cop for a fender bender'. but this is podunk central, so it was the highlight of the day i'm sure.
the cop heard me say 'oh, give me a break'. he turns to me and says 'maam, if youre going to argue i'll take you to jail'.
i looked at him, my son, and then back at him. i said 'i'm not arguing'. he said i heard what you just said after what the lady told me.
i said 'sir, i didn't hear her and wasn't responding to her. and we all know what happened here. what i said was 'oh, give me a break' because i saw one of your other officers coming to help you write this report. you guys must be having a slow day'.
so, that jackhole is going to take me to jail because i said 'oh give me a break'? just unreal.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Really? So police are just killing black men willy nilly nationwide? For no reason? Golly . . .

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

no, i'm not going to bother. you can find all that out for yourself if you so wish. try google for a start. or write al jazeera, since they're the ones who used the line.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...protestor.html

my gosh

[OldDog]

Might just be me, but if I found myself in a volatile place and time, and a person (any person) had a gun raised in my general direction, the last thing I would do is walk toward that person in a group and initiate a confrontation. But perhaps my sense of self preservation is stronger than some. As my Dad said, look for trouble and you'll likely find it.

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

There was a study done recently that an African American is shot dead by a member of law enforcement or person otherwise protected by the government every 28 hours. That's almost one a day.

But a white guy can go into a movie theater, kill a dozen, and be taken alive.

Here's one about a black man shot dead by police in Target for carrying a toy rifle sold by the store. In Ohio, which is an open carry state.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/poli...src=topstories

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

There was a study done recently that an African American is shot dead by a member of law enforcement or person otherwise protected by the government every 28 hours. That's almost one a day.

That's an astonishing fact.

I courious what the statistic would reflect in cities where neighborhoods comprised entirely of white people, almost all on some sort of welfare, where 74% of the gun related shootings are committed by white gang bangers would be - do you have those facts by any chance?

Oh wait...I see now.....so....if that doesn't exist, it would be logical to assume that....never mind... keep on keepin' on with this nonsense.

What's next? Are we going to get lectured on how it's all the white people's fault that there are bad neighborhoods comprised entirely of non-whites?

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Keep banging this inane, self-loathing drum. It's ridiculous, especially when commented on from a perfectly safe and hypocritical distance. When did your family leave the 'ole neighborhood?

If you really want to make a difference instead of making up an excuse to blame "white people", why don't you move to the middle of Ferguson and set an example?

Here's the 2010 Census breakdown of the racial demographics of my neighborhood:

White: 18%
Black: 49%
Hispanic: 17%
Asian: 10%
Other: 5%

But thanks for making a blind, erroneous assumption about me. You know, like the Ferguson PD does about the citizens they're supposed to be protecting and serving.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

Op Ed's from Al Jazeera?
the tone is 100% on point. what is misleading is that this "cult of compliance" has been ingrained into the society since 9/11.

It started off, innocently enough, with absurd TSA intrusions of personal liberty, in the "name of security", and are now part and parcel of everyday life.- "Put your shampoo in a baggie and make sure it is not 3.1 oz. or the baggie is no larger than a quart". "Agree to a full body scan or a groping session." "Take your shoes off, leave your shoes on, tap dance, stop tap dancing" - on and on.. It's now completely accepted and appreciated as "saving us from the devil" when really it was just the beginning of the complacency indoctrination process.
Add in the DHS (easily worth every penny of the 60 BILLION dollars a year we spend on "it), the Patriot Act, and how the expanded roles the NDAA plays in circumventing the constitution, of course all in the "name of security" and you get a greater erosion of liberty.

Now militarize the police so that it becomes accepted that we can expect them to basically "be an army" for our "security".

It's been going on right under your noses.

Ignore it, pay no attention.

"Hey look over there, it's another Ice Bucket Challenge!!!!"