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12-01-2006, 10:25 PM
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12-02-2006, 08:54 AM
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12-02-2006, 09:23 AM
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Not so sure I agree with much of this. Couldn't one say that whatever horse was second in the mediocre Holy Bull also " extended Barbaro all out "? Couldn't one also say that the only truly special race Barbaro ever ran on the dirt was the Kentucky Derby? Couldn't one also say that Sharp Humor took advantage of a speed favoring track in the Florida Derby and a pretty questionable field save Barbaro? Sharp Humor was certainly a well above average horse but he was also just as certainly another horse that, at least on the internet, earned some sort of reputation that was hard to justify when looking at his pps. In fact, it feels like his connections believed, or possessed, that same unjustifiable opinion when they foolishly ran him in the Cigar in just his second race back from an injury. This was far more ridiculous than them trying him in the Derby, where obviously he also had no shot, but there's only one Kentucky Derby and it is understandably hard to pass up after his deceptive performance in the Florida Derby. While it's possible that his unfortunate injuries would have happened regardless of where he had raced it is also quite possible that he is yet another horse who was injured because his ability was misinterpreted. Had he been less aggressively spotted perhaps he would have reestablished his form and then have been sound enough to have taken advantage of a situation akin to the mediocre bunch that assembled for last year's Grade 1 Carter Handicap.
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12-02-2006, 03:03 PM
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12-01-2006, 11:24 PM
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I think that Barbaro was all out that day, but Barbaro was actually slipping on the dirt a little bit while coming down the stretch and that actually cost him a little bit. Barbaro was better suited to that distance IMO too.
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12-02-2006, 12:52 AM
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Value Plus has a nice pedigree, not that it made him much of a racehorse.
half to Roll Hennessy Roll and Majorbigtimesheet. his dam was a stakes winner and I read somewhere 5 of her 7 won at first asking. he should be an ideal win early sire. I get why breeders would have interest there. MDO should make an excellent sire of both turf and dirt runners. the others, well its a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. like mentioned earlier in this thread, the listed prices(which I am sure are not set in stone) seem very random. I get Stonewall is trying to jump right into the market and make a splash but they would have been better served to bring in some of the very nice and productive sires that stand in Florida. Repent
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12-02-2006, 01:00 AM
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oh,
and on the Sharp Humor subject. very nice racehorse. just did not get a chance to run all that much. why are so many good Distorted Humor runners NY breds? he has never stood in NY has he? I know you can have a state bred come from any sire, it just seems like I see a lot of Distorted Humor runners on past performaces sheets listed as NY breds. i know he has stakes winners like Sensibly Chic, Commentator, FCide, and Sharp Humor. but he has a lot of NY breds in general also. can anyone shed some light on that for me? thanks. Repent
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