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Old 07-02-2014, 11:46 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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Rupert, the violence in Mexico and Central America has escalated the past few years as drug cartels destabilize the nations in that area. It's torn Mexico to shreds and now it's moving into Central America. Things are very, very bad there. Sixty thousand have died in drug-related violence since 2006 in Mexico alone (and that's a lowball estimate). On Monday, 22 traffickers and soldiers died in a single firefight. It's hardly surprising parents are trying to get their kids the hell out of there by sending them to relatives in safer countries.

The state Mexico is in is largely our fault; we have created this situation with our War on Drugs policies. In addition, the US has a history of turning a blind eye to drug trafficking, and even aiding it, if the factions doing it are serving our own interests- that's been going at least since the Reagan Presidency (remember the Nicaraguan Contras and the CIA?) and for all we know, longer. The US role in creating the situation in Mexico cannot be overstated.

So, where young children are concerned, yeah, I have a bit of a "we broke it; we bought it" opinion.
You probably won't like the website but this article talks about what is actually going on. By the way, the White House finally admitted that rumors of free entry are one of the things causing this whole mess.

According to White House Director of Domestic Policy Cecilia Munoz, "Part of what the Vice President’s effort and the administration’s effort overall is to make sure people have accurate information and that we push back on the misinformation that’s being spread and that’s contributing to this problem,” she said.

The White House elaborated in a “Fact Sheet” distributed Friday that specifically, Biden “will reiterate that unaccompanied children and adults arriving with their children are not eligible to benefit from the passage of immigration reform legislation or from the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) process.”

I can't remember who is responsible for DACA. Maybe you can tell me. Hint: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (“DACA”) is a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with all these kids coming here. LOL. About 6,500 kids came here in 2012. This year that number is 90,000. Just a coincidence I'm sure. I'm sure DACA has nothing to do with it.

http://humanevents.com/2014/06/23/wh...grant-tsunami/
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:58 AM
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Most of these kids are here to stay. They are actually going to release almost all of them. Very few will be deported. They don't have the resources to continue housing them, so they are releasing them to the custody of any possible relatives or in some cases just to families that will take them. For example, if the kid says his only relative is an aunt in Tuscon, they will put him on a bus to Tuscon. That is after he is processed. The only stipulation of the release is that they will report to ICE in 3-4 weeks. What is going to compel the kids to report to ICE? I'll bet that 90% of these kids never report to ICE. What is the government going to do? If the kids don't report to ICE within a month, is the government going to track all these kids down?

What kind of policy is this? This is insane. The President and Congress are totally worthless. They should pass emergency laws immediately to make sure any future underage immigrants are deported immediately. That is the only way kids from Central America will stop coming. As long as they know that this "catch and release" program exists, they will continue to come here. Not only are they estimating over 90,000 of these kids coming this year. They are estimating 140,000 for next year.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:43 PM
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I can't remember who is responsible for DACA. Maybe you can tell me. Hint: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (“DACA”) is a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with all these kids coming here. LOL. About 6,500 kids came here in 2012. This year that number is 90,000. Just a coincidence I'm sure. I'm sure DACA has nothing to do with it.

http://humanevents.com/2014/06/23/wh...grant-tsunami/
If DACA is the thing I think it is (I'm sorry I'm guessing; I'm just back from seeing the doctor because I've been sick a week now and my google strength is not at full), it was established because of concerns that kids coming here from Central America and immediately getting turned back would end up victims of child trafficking before they got back home. Now that there is a deluge of kids coming in, the US has to do something else.

I don't think you can blame the WH for the rumors. As Mark Twain, or Winston Churchill, or somebody, said, a lie gets halfway around the world while the truth is still pulling on its pants.
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:24 PM
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If DACA is the thing I think it is (I'm sorry I'm guessing; I'm just back from seeing the doctor because I've been sick a week now and my google strength is not at full), it was established because of concerns that kids coming here from Central America and immediately getting turned back would end up victims of child trafficking before they got back home. Now that there is a deluge of kids coming in, the US has to do something else.

I don't think you can blame the WH for the rumors. As Mark Twain, or Winston Churchill, or somebody, said, a lie gets halfway around the world while the truth is still pulling on its pants.
I hope you are feeling better. Are you still sick?

Here is DACA on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferre...dhood_Arrivals

As I was saying before, even though Obama is claiming that DACA doesn't apply to these current kids, it might as well apply since the kids are just being released with the stipulation that they report to ICE within a month. That's basically as good as asylum. These kids are smart to come here. They'll probably be able to stay.
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