You are paying for it

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

You counter Danzig fact with a statistic that may be true but has nothing whatsoever to do with disproving her statistic. The only fool you are fooling with this tactic is yourself.

Geez and I thought when Danzig wrote and I quote, "This country is still the number one manufacturer in the world" she meant the U.S.

Or in your mind is Danzig a better source than the world's largest accounting firm?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Geez and I thought when Danzig wrote and I quote, "This country is still the number one manufacturer in the world" she meant the U.S.

Or in your mind is Danzig a better source than the world's largest accounting firm?

Wasn't addressing what you are commenting about but don't let that stop you

[Danzig]

Jms, your quoting dell defeats the ignore feature.....

Google is useful. One would find stats indicating college now vs decades ago...including the fact that in the early 70s, 11% of americans had degrees. Its now 33% and rising, with 75% of hs grads now going to college.
One would also see that more and more people are now underemployed. But im sure its their own fault....

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Jms, your quoting dell defeats the ignore feature.....

Google is useful. One would find stats indicating college now vs decades ago...including the fact that in the early 70s, 11% of americans had degrees. Its now 33% and rising, with 75% of hs grads now going to college.
One would also see that more and more people are now underemployed. But im sure its their own fault....

People with Masters and PHD's are unemployed now too. That's what you get for leaving an H1B program in place to fix a problem 15 years longer than necessary.

This board is way too boring when I let you ignore Dell

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

People with Masters and PHD's are unemployed now too. That's what you get for leaving an H1B program in place to fix a problem 15 years longer than necessary.

This board is way too boring when I let you ignore Dell

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Underemployment is a huge issue....there are people with a lot of education who are questioning their decision to go to college, because they cant find a job...or cant find one that pays. So they take what they can get while hunting for better.....thus, they are lazy....right? Where my husband works, less jobs, more automation, same output. Less than half the jobs they once provided..with robots doing more and more work.
Then, as prices have risen, wages have not. Again, google and see the study of a car price in the 60s vs now, and the workers ability to buy that car vs now.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Too bad it wasn't before the PETA thread.

[Danzig]

Jms, i also wonder if people get their degree...cant find a job, so they go back to school and aork on masters, doctorates, thinking thatll help(and one hasnt got to pay student loans while in school) so now they have even more education...and still, one job for every three applicants.
We have made huge strides in technology, to keep up with demand, while hurting the very people our increasing technology is meant to help. I watch shows like modern marvels, tha5 show machines cranking out prudct at amazing rates...and wonder how many people used to do the jobs these machines do now. It used to be that if you needed to produce more, you hired more people or added shifts or built another factory. Now, you just install another machine.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

Oh you'll never know the irony of you having your fingers in your ear continuously repeating yourself.

It's libertarding and brings back memories of our village board idiot!

[dellinger63]

Just realized if US Median Income had kept up with the raises in Welfare Benefits from 1974 it would be $151,164 and minimum wage would be $24.92....

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I loathe repeating myself to someone with their fingers in their ears yelling lalala. Swift is correct about reasoning with people who dont use reason. So i gave up

Underemployment is a huge issue....there are people with a lot of education who are questioning their decision to go to college, because they cant find a job...or cant find one that pays. So they take what they can get while hunting for better.....thus, they are lazy....right? Where my husband works, less jobs, more automation, same output. Less than half the jobs they once provided..with robots doing more and more work.
Then, as prices have risen, wages have not. Again, google and see the study of a car price in the 60s vs now, and the workers ability to buy that car vs now.

Or....one can just say thats all not so. But it is so

There are a lot of people with degrees that still have no education or marketable skills. College is not for everyone.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

There are a lot of people with degrees that still have no education or marketable skills. College is not for everyone.

true that not all degrees are useful. however, it isn't true that people don't have education, or that people are lazy, etc, etc.
we always told people if you work hard, you can get ahead. that's changing, and not for the better.

[Danzig]

and, should one ask google what country is the number one manufacturer...why, its the us.

A recent stat showed we were outpacing china by 40%.

But....much like some believe the earth is 6000 years old, one can choose to believe what they wish regarding jobs, college, and the changes regarding buying power, what is making us more productive with less employees, wages and the like.

[dellinger63]

How about the government distributing the $23.45 billion sales tax it takes in from WalMart sales every year?

Divided between WalMart's 525,000 hourly employees giving them each $44,666 or a $22.20 per hour raise.

[dellinger63]

Then give them back the income tax the corporation pays, $8 billion a year.

Another $15,238 per employee or an additional $7.60 an hour

[dellinger63]

With an additional $12/hour average salary paid by WalMart we now have WalMart employees making $41.80/hour or $86,944/year.