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Old 02-27-2014, 03:46 PM
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and dave:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...riminates.html

'Arizona allows discrimination against gays and lesbians in employment, public accommodations, housing, hospital visitation, and education.'


they have a ways to go, as do other states.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:11 PM
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and dave:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...riminates.html

'Arizona allows discrimination against gays and lesbians in employment, public accommodations, housing, hospital visitation, and education.'


they have a ways to go, as do other states.[/Q

Yep, thats what I said in my post. Believe me if some business tried this, with facebook,Twitter,and all the other social networks, they would go out of business.
i just don't get the thought processes of the people who are writing, supporting and voting for these really bad ideas.
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If you're an American/Christian and refuse to participate in gay weddings due to religious objections in AZ. You can be sued.

Foreign muslim wanting come to America to preach the death penalty for being gay? Welcome to America.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/state-d...ader-into-u-s/
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So now i hear they might try to "protect" ministers and judges that refuse to do a wedding due to their religious beliefs.Always an adventure around here.
but since there's no anti-discrimination law regarding gays, what would they be 'protecting' them from?
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...an_racism.html


as i've said before, here and elsewhere, saying 'religion' isn't enough-is it? to twist the teachings of jesus to justify hatred, vitriol, discrimination-that gives you a pass?

insert 'race' instead of 'homosexual', and tell me again how this is a-ok.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...an_racism.html


as i've said before, here and elsewhere, saying 'religion' isn't enough-is it? to twist the teachings of jesus to justify hatred, vitriol, discrimination-that gives you a pass?

insert 'race' instead of 'homosexual', and tell me again how this is a-ok.


Saw this tweeted by @JohnFugelsang , which couldn't sum it up more succinctly:

JESUS - was a radical, nonviolent, revolutionary who hung around with Lepers, Hookers, and Crooks -
He wasn't:
American and never spoke English.
He was:
Anti-Wealth, Anti-Death Penalty, and Anti-Public Prayer (M.6-5) and

NEVER mentioned Abortion or Birth Control
NEVER called the poor "lazy"
NEVER justified torture
NEVER fought for tax cuts for the Wealthiest Nazarenes,
NEVER asked a Leper for a Co-pay

He was a Long-Haired, Brown-Skinned, Homeless, Community-Organizing, Anti-Slut-Shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.
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Saw this tweeted by @JohnFugelsang , which couldn't sum it up more succinctly:

JESUS - was a radical, nonviolent, revolutionary who hung around with Lepers, Hookers, and Crooks -
He wasn't:
American and never spoke English.
He was:
Anti-Wealth, Anti-Death Penalty, and Anti-Public Prayer (M.6-5) and

NEVER mentioned Abortion or Birth Control
NEVER called the poor "lazy"
NEVER justified torture
NEVER fought for tax cuts for the Wealthiest Nazarenes,
NEVER asked a Leper for a Co-pay

He was a Long-Haired, Brown-Skinned, Homeless, Community-Organizing, Anti-Slut-Shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.
According to the source(s) cited above: Jesus also was born to a virgin, turned water into wine w/o a still, healed at least five from demon possession, raised a widow's dead son, Jairus' daughter and brought Lazarus back to life, walked on water AND was the son of God.
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According to the source(s) cited above: Jesus also was born to a virgin, turned water into wine w/o a still, healed at least five from demon possession, raised a widow's dead son, Jairus' daughter and brought Lazarus back to life, walked on water AND was the son of God.
FTFY. You used the wrong Emoticon.
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Saw this tweeted by @JohnFugelsang , which couldn't sum it up more succinctly:

JESUS - was a radical, nonviolent, revolutionary who hung around with Lepers, Hookers, and Crooks -
He wasn't:
American and never spoke English.
He was:
Anti-Wealth, Anti-Death Penalty, and Anti-Public Prayer (M.6-5) and

NEVER mentioned Abortion or Birth Control
NEVER called the poor "lazy"
NEVER justified torture
NEVER fought for tax cuts for the Wealthiest Nazarenes,
NEVER asked a Leper for a Co-pay

He was a Long-Haired, Brown-Skinned, Homeless, Community-Organizing, Anti-Slut-Shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.
yeah..

whatever happened to

do unto others as you'd have done unto you
judge not lest ye be judged
whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers....

??

jesus wouldn't be with the people supporting and pushing this legislation. he'd be with the 'sinners'
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:23 AM
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insert 'race' instead of 'homosexual', and tell me again how this is a-ok.
The refusal of service to the lesbian couple is wrong and should not be legal/tolerated but comparing race and homosexuality is disingenuous as homosexuals have the ability to be perceived as straight or non-sexual. African Americans don't have the ability to be white or non-African American.

And refusing to bake a cake is not necessarily indicative of 'hate' IMO
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The refusal of service to the lesbian couple is wrong and should not be legal/tolerated but comparing race and homosexuality is disingenuous as homosexuals have the ability to be perceived as straight or non-sexual. African Americans don't have the ability to be white or non-African American.

And refusing to bake a cake is not necessarily indicative of 'hate' IMO
gays have "the ability to be perceived as straight" in the same way you have "the ability to be perceived as gay".

all they have to do is stop acting so queer and pushing their lifestyle in our faces, right?

your comment tries very hard to avoid saying its a personal choice but it's pretty hard to see how that isn't what you're actually saying. it's less offensive to refuse services because it's just the way someone is behaving as opposed to who they actually are.
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gays have "the ability to be perceived as straight" in the same way you have "the ability to be perceived as gay".

all they have to do is stop acting so queer and pushing their lifestyle in our faces, right?

your comment tries very hard to avoid saying its a personal choice but it's pretty hard to see how that isn't what you're actually saying. it's less offensive to refuse services because it's just the way someone is behaving as opposed to who they actually are.
Lot of presumptions there God.

Taking off a rainbow flag is much easier than washing the black off.

Bottom line, in America is it's 'easier' living life gay than living life black.

Whether it be jobs, housing or a meal at a restaurant and that was my point.

BTW I didn't bring up the comparison of discrimination between race and homosexuality.
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