freedom of religion

[rpncaine]

Don't you wonder if the Super Bowl coming and veiled threats to move it was the real reason she vetoed it?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

Don't you wonder if the Super Bowl coming and veiled threats to move it was the real reason she vetoed it?

You're correct...I was going to add at the end of my post..well..thank goodness the NFL put the SB there..

She is a Pro-Business Governor who based her decision on what's best for business..I don't think equal rights for gays were part of how she processed this. I may be wrong, but doubt it...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

Don't you wonder if the Super Bowl coming and veiled threats to move it was the real reason she vetoed it?

it's too bad that arizona has to wait to make changes, admit errors, until it gets a bunch of negative attention from the rest of the country.
it took threats of boycotts, loss of superbowls, etc, to pass the MLK holiday.
embarrassing really for the state.
i'd imagine if she'd not been out of state for those days while attention built that she would have signed it into law. timing is everything.

[GBBob]

State by State:

My money is on Mississippi

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

I think that after the young lady in New Mexico, who would not take pictures of a gay wedding because of her beliefs, was sued by the couple. The gay couple won the law suit. This is what got all of this **** rolling. The funny thing about this whole thing is in AZ right now, a business can say no to any customer. The reason doesn't matter. I ,after reading the law, feel this had nothing to do with Christians verses Gays. It would be interesting to see who was really behind both sides. Not one person in AZ thought this thing would be brought into law.The media had a field day with it and now its over and done.The states that are looking into this bill will change the wording, after seeing how badly it was written here. People and business types still flock here because of the weather and low cost of living.Is it perfect,no. There isn't a state that is.Now we will have the Pro Bowl and the following week the Super Bowl.Every once in awhile we need to stir things up.Its always fun times, but in the end,we do the right thing.

that simply isn't true. and i'd direct your attention to mississippi for another example. they managed to get the bill thru both houses, with both parties voting for it, with no noise made. and now, the pols are all realizing what they've done, and are trying to crawfish on their votes in MS. it was begun with the best of intentions, i'm sure, to protect someone's religious rights. but it all went south, because the pols were not paying attention to the larger picture, that they were essentially legalizing discrimination.
a perfect example of what paves the road to hell. the pols didn't think it thru. and now they're all trying to save face.
like george takei said, they can't decide who sits at the lunch counter. that decision has been made, years ago.

it's really too bad that it didn't pass, because i'd have LOVEDLOVEDLOVED to see a christian, and even better, one of the politicians, walk into a muslim-owned joint and get denied service. oho, that would have been just grand.
'no, it's not to protect you! just us good, god fearing christians.' that would have been hilarious.

[Danzig]

and dave:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...riminates.html

'Arizona allows discrimination against gays and lesbians in employment, public accommodations, housing, hospital visitation, and education.'


they have a ways to go, as do other states.

[Danzig]

[quote=arizonadave;967369]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and dave:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...riminates.html

'Arizona allows discrimination against gays and lesbians in employment, public accommodations, housing, hospital visitation, and education.'


they have a ways to go, as do other states.[/Q

Yep, thats what I said in my post. Believe me if some business tried this, with facebook,Twitter,and all the other social networks, they would go out of business.

i just don't get the thought processes of the people who are writing, supporting and voting for these really bad ideas.

[dellinger63]

If you're an American/Christian and refuse to participate in gay weddings due to religious objections in AZ. You can be sued.

Foreign muslim wanting come to America to preach the death penalty for being gay? Welcome to America.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/02/state-d...ader-into-u-s/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

So now i hear they might try to "protect" ministers and judges that refuse to do a wedding due to their religious beliefs.Always an adventure around here.

but since there's no anti-discrimination law regarding gays, what would they be 'protecting' them from?