BC '13 NOTEBOOK: Juvenile; Juvy Fillies; Juvy Turf; Juvy Filly Turf

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by wac

oh no, i see medal count is listed in juvenile???? why on earth is romans doing this? I kinda like this horse as I said on an earlier thread. Steve, is there any reason why Romans is thinking about entering him?? seems WAY over his head at this point in his career and I just hope it doesn't ruin him. if he trains out in Calif. Steve can you let me know how it goes? just don't see a 2yr old Dynaformer doing well but I hope im wrong.

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can say and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can day and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

You were doing OK until this.

He's WAY slow, and surely more misplaced than Havana. I won't argue with you if you said he isn't substantially worse than much of the field.

[wac]

thanks for the info Steve, i guess we will see how it shakes out. i agree BTW, he has not run very fast at this point but i was thinking/hoping that due to breeding he may get better as he gets older. The reason i like the horse is b/c i was impressed with his win 1st time out going route of ground stuck on the rail and fought thru other horses to win. i know the race came back slow and he sure didn't really open any eyes up the other day at Keen. thats why i was hoping the would just sit on him till early next year.

[Kasept]

Jay Privman ‏@DRFPrivman: Mike Smith rides Euro 2yo Outstrip in BC Juv Turf, per agent Brad Pegram.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Jay Privman ‏@DRFPrivman: Mike Smith rides Euro 2yo Outstrip in BC Juv Turf, per agent Brad Pegram.

I guess I can live with this.

[Kasept]

David Grening ‏@DRFGrening: Owner Kin Hui on decision to run Diamond Bachelor in BC Juvenile on dirt and not turf: "Nothing to lose. We'd like to see how good he is"

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Kasept

David Grening ‏@DRFGrening: Owner Kin Hui on decision to run Diamond Bachelor in BC Juvenile on dirt and not turf: "Nothing to lose. We'd like to see how good he is"

I like it. Gutsy.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He's not thinking of entering.. he's pre-entered. And I'd say that Romans wants to run him because he thinks he can be competitive. And recognize that owner B. Wayne Hughes and the Spendthrift team likely have a say in in the decision. There are 5 other horses in the Juvy with 2 starts -- or less when it comes to Tap It Rich -- so he's not giving away all that much experience. He has run 2 two turn races which only 4 other horses can say and has a higher last race Beyer than half the field. He's no more misplaced in the Juvenile than anyone else.

I think this argument is now moot.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think this argument is now moot.

Will you have picks or opinions in writing anywhere?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Will you have picks or opinions in writing anywhere?

I will PM them to you..They are a secret

[miraja2]

What are people's thoughts on Clenor? Her last two races obviously make her appealing but is the removal of lasix more worrisome with her because she didn't run as well without it in her first three starts? Or has her improvement been more about the stretchout to 8f after going to California?
Obviously there's no way to know for sure, but I am curious if anyone has any thoughts.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What are people's thoughts on Clenor? Her last two races obviously make her appealing but is the removal of lasix more worrisome with her because she didn't run as well without it in her first three starts? Or has her improvement been more about the stretchout to 8f after going to California?
Obviously there's no way to know for sure, but I am curious if anyone has any thoughts.

The fields in CA are weak. I don't trust Clenor at all.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What are people's thoughts on Clenor? Her last two races obviously make her appealing but is the removal of lasix more worrisome with her because she didn't run as well without it in her first three starts? Or has her improvement been more about the stretchout to 8f after going to California?
Obviously there's no way to know for sure, but I am curious if anyone has any thoughts.

I hate drawing outside, but I think she's good. She was very unlucky in her last two races before coming over and has shown some talent since. It's a wide open field, but she's going to be on my tickets.

[Merlinsky]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...th-bucked-shin

Cleburne's out of the Juvenile with a bucked shin.