8/24 (SAR): Travers, King's Bishop, Test (G1's), Ballston Spa (G2)

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Originally Posted by pointman

Smith didn't try to get Pianist in front and I believe if he sent early Pianist was faster than the 1.

He had the lead on Let Em Shine but for some odd reason he didn't take to the rail to shut off and force Mentor Cane to go outside of him. Neither needed to be a machine. Smith just needed to have a smart strategy. He didn't on either of those horses plain and simple.

You should give some tips before the races are run.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You should give some tips before the races are run.

Seriously?

I'll try to dumb it down for you. Both the turf course and main track were playing to an inside speed bias. On paper, IMO, Smith had the fastest horse out of the gate who could get to the lead in both those races, a tactical advantage the way the courses were playing.

On Pianist he didn't try to, he let a horse he could have outrun to the lead get the lead and took his horse's best weapon away from him.

On Let Em Shine he had the lead and could have chosen to take his horse over to the rail on the best part of the track and let his horse do what he wants to do, outrun his competition, close the rail and force Mentor Cane to the outside and chase him. Instead he let Mentor Cane take the rail and tried to chase him.

Do you think either Pianist or Let Em Shine is a horse that wants to rate and chase outside another speed horse?

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by pointman

Seriously?

I'll try to dumb it down for you. Both the turf course and main track were playing to an inside speed bias. On paper, IMO, Smith had the fastest horse out of the gate who could get to the lead in both those races, a tactical advantage the way the courses were playing.

On Pianist he didn't try to, he let a horse he could have outrun to the lead get the lead and took his horse's best weapon away from him.

On Let Em Shine he had the lead and could have chosen to take his horse over to the rail on the best part of the track and let his horse do what he wants to do, outrun his competition, close the rail and force Mentor Cane to the outside and chase him. Instead he let Mentor Cane take the rail and try to chase him.

Do you think either Pianist or Let Em Shine is a horse that wants to rate and chase outside another speed horse?

Well, he must have thought speed was playing well on the turf before the 5th race. He was going to be on the lead that race or wipe out his horse trying.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by pointman

Seriously?

I'll try to dumb it down for you. Both the turf course and main track were playing to an inside speed bias. On paper, IMO, Smith had the fastest horse out of the gate who could get to the lead in both those races, a tactical advantage the way the courses were playing.

On Pianist he didn't try to, he let a horse he could have outrun to the lead get the lead and took his horse's best weapon away from him.

On Let Em Shine he had the lead and could have chosen to take his horse over to the rail on the best part of the track and let his horse do what he wants to do, outrun his competition, close the rail and force Mentor Cane to the outside and chase him. Instead he let Mentor Cane take the rail and tried to chase him.

Do you think either Pianist or Let Em Shine is a horse that wants to rate and chase outside another speed horse?

Thanks for dumbing down your opinion for me.

I dont think Pianist was chasing anything, I think she was just in a workout more or less and then a sprint to the wire. If you think she was so compromised she will be a great bet for you next time.

Let Em Shine certainly would have been beaten only 29 lengths instead of 30 had he gunned to the lead.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Thanks for dumbing down your opinion for me.

I dont think Pianist was chasing anything, I think she was just in a workout more or less and then a sprint to the wire. If you think she was so compromised she will be a great bet for you next time.

Let Em Shine certainly would have been beaten only 29 lengths instead of 30 had he gunned to the lead.

You are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn't bet Pianist back unless she had a the kind of tactical advantage she had today.

I'm not sure Let Em Shine would have won, but certainly may have if he took advantage of the biased part of the track and let the horse do what it wants to do. That's just my opinion. You have the right to disagree and bet accordingly.