8/24 (SAR): Travers, King's Bishop, Test (G1's), Ballston Spa (G2)

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Pletchers monmouth game does not seem to Travel to Saratoga, Verrazano was done at the QP.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Pletchers monmouth game does not seem to Travel to Saratoga, Verrazano was done at the QP.

Verrazano needed the Throgs Neck to get there today. Yuck

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Race completely changed for most when Palice Malice missed the break, but Will Take Charge was mid pack so the race was pretty fair for all.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Race completely changed for most when Palice Malice missed the break, but Will Take Charge was mid pack so the race was pretty fair for all.

I agree. The only thing I wonder is if Orb might have finished slightly better had he been asked later? Tough call though when you see the hole up the rail.

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

I agree. The only thing I wonder is if Orb might have finished slightly better had he been asked later? Tough call though when you see the hole up the rail.

I cant blame the rider for any of that, sure maybe he has to be ridden for one burst because as a grinder he sure seems like a G2 type horse, he has no real turn of foot.

[pointman]

A stunning display of incompetent riding by Mike Smith today.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by pointman

A stunning display of incompetent riding by Mike Smith today.

I'm not sure what race you were watching but P.M. broke awkward and bobbled coming out of that gate, witch took him out of game. Incompetent would be Durkin not being to call the winner of the Travers and him not being able to call Central Banker 3rd in the King Bishop!

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Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

I'm not sure what race you were watching but P.M. broke awkward and bobbled coming out of that gate, witch took him out of game. Incompetent would be Durkin not being to call the winner of the Travers and him not being able to call Central Banker 3rd in the King Bishop!

The only think I think Mike should have done differently is try to cut the corner on My Happy Face, other than that its just the way races unfolded.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Aly-Sheba

I'm not sure what race you were watching but P.M. broke awkward and bobbled coming out of that gate, witch took him out of game. Incompetent would be Durkin not being to call the winner of the Travers and him not being able to call Central Banker 3rd in the King Bishop!

I mentioned on the selections thread after the race that I missed the bad break initially. However, the fact that he didn't go to the front on Pianist and didn't take Let Em Shine to the rail on the lead and try to wire them is mind boggling to me.

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Originally Posted by pointman

I mentioned on the selections thread after the race that I missed the bad break initially. However, the fact that he didn't go to the front on Pianist and didn't take Let Em Shine to the rail on the lead and try to wire them is mind boggling to me.

I bet Pianist, dream run really but that gutless horse would not go by, you dont get a better trip really.

Let Em Shine was being asked very early on then was practically eased, I suppose if he went to the whip he could have gotten past Mentor Crane, maybe.

If these races were run with machines and piloted by robots maybe everything would play out in perfect orchestra but that is very much not in the case.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I bet Pianist, dream run really but that gutless horse would not go by, you dont get a better trip really.

Let Em Shine was being asked very early on then was practically eased, I suppose if he went to the whip he could have gotten past Mentor Crane, maybe.

If these races were run with machines and piloted by robots maybe everything would play out in perfect orchestra but that is very much not in the case.

Smith didn't try to get Pianist in front and I believe if he sent early Pianist was faster than the 1.

He had the lead on Let Em Shine but for some odd reason he didn't take to the rail to shut off and force Mentor Cane to go outside of him. Neither needed to be a machine. Smith just needed to have a smart strategy. He didn't on either of those horses plain and simple.

[Merlinsky]

I've been trying to watch the live post-Travers show but it looks like the NYRA website went down. Anybody else having that problem?

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Been down all day but they will have it on Youtube later.

[cakes44]

WTC hasn't put together 2 good races in a row for quite some time until today. Might be turning a corner and become the real deal.