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Old 06-19-2013, 08:25 AM
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i don't know, i'd have to look into it. wouldn't surprise me if it was. once upon a time, we were allies with saddam, and afganistan was our biggest recipient of foreign aid. our foreign policy SUCKS.
It all comes down to oil. If we'd actually get serious about putting real money into alternative, renewable, energy sources, we'd need the Middle East a lot less.

Doug once commented here that he wonders if, 500 years from now, history will describe Osama bin Laden as the man who brought down two empires- the Soviet Union and the United States. Very smart comment.

Though, in all fairness, the Bush Administration was determined to go into Iraq from the day they got into office. 9/11 was just the excuse.
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i think there's got to be more to this than oil. nato going after libya made me wonder too....is it all still european (and now, us included) imperial desires?
it's as tho we have become the old worlds mercenary army.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:43 PM
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i think there's got to be more to this than oil. nato going after libya made me wonder too....is it all still european (and now, us included) imperial desires?
it's as tho we have become the old worlds mercenary army.
Imperial desires are about access to limited resources. We may not practice direct colonialism now, but we're still practicing economic colonialism.
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:34 PM
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It all comes down to oil. If we'd actually get serious about putting real money into alternative, renewable, energy sources, we'd need the Middle East a lot less.

Doug once commented here that he wonders if, 500 years from now, history will describe Osama bin Laden as the man who brought down two empires- the Soviet Union and the United States. Very smart comment.

Though, in all fairness, the Bush Administration was determined to go into Iraq from the day they got into office. 9/11 was just the excuse

On that point, saw this the other day..watch the video..

Why Cheney is the Traitor, and Why we Can’t Believe Obama on Safeguards (The Ultimate Clip of Gov’t Lies) http://tinyurl.com/knn95e2
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