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Old 12-19-2012, 07:37 PM
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Whatever she does Friday ... I think her best game will be sprinting and on synthetic.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:46 PM
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Whatever she does Friday ... I think her best game will be sprinting and on synthetic.
I don't disagree at all. We are really trying the spot cause we are essentially in jail right now because of the EHV-1. She was suppose to be on a farm Nov 15th in NOLA relaxing until mid Jan but because we can't leave, we talked it out after her last disaster and figured what the hell, might as well try it and see what happens.

Her being the ML favorite is laughable IMO cause I thought she would be around 8/1.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:02 PM
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That last race had to be heartbreaking.

All she needed was to show up and she'd win a 100K stake race.

She's obviously a bad ML favorite on Friday. Still, worth running in there I suppose because only one other horse is proven on dirt.

For Christ sakes man, give GB Bob a Xanax or a Valium or something to chill him out.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:10 PM
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That last race had to be heartbreaking.

All she needed was to show up and she'd win a 100K stake race.

She's obviously a bad ML favorite on Friday. Still, worth running in there I suppose because only one other horse is proven on dirt.

For Christ sakes man, give GB Bob a Xanax or a Valium or something to chill him out.
Every race you don't win is heartbreaking. Fact is that never did we think we would be in that spot with this horse so her races this year have been a welcome surprise.

Lets just hope we get a chance to run on Friday, cause the weather is about to get crazy here, and while I don't think the track will be an issue, the wind will.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:03 PM
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She didn't show up again and was trounced a long way at 2/1 odds today.

Dehere offspring have those mind-boggling ROI numbers on debut from such a huge sample size ... not necessarily because the offspring are precocious, but because they tend to fool clockers and trainers with how they train. They over-perform initial placement and expectations.

Pull up the past performances on them, and you'll see that pattern jump out at you after you've looked at more than a hundred of them.

Dehere's usually aren't the hardiest of horses...and the mother was ultra game, but not exactly hardy. Pedigree is extremely tilted to sprint VS route... though your trainer does a good job at getting horses to route.

I would say don't even bother with the Fairgrounds. She hasn't shown up twice in a row, she's bred best for poly, and she's an ILLI bred.

Rest her until Arlington, sprint her, and space her races and you'll get the best out of her.
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She didn't show up again and was trounced a long way at 2/1 odds today.

Dehere offspring have those mind-boggling ROI numbers on debut from such a huge sample size ... not necessarily because the offspring are precocious, but because they tend to fool clockers and trainers with how they train. They over-perform initial placement and expectations.

Pull up the past performances on them, and you'll see that pattern jump out at you after you've looked at more than a hundred of them.

Dehere's usually aren't the hardiest of horses...and the mother was ultra game, but not exactly hardy. Pedigree is extremely tilted to sprint VS route... though your trainer does a good job at getting horses to route.

I would say don't even bother with the Fairgrounds. She hasn't shown up twice in a row, she's bred best for poly, and she's an ILLI bred.

Rest her until Arlington, sprint her, and space her races and you'll get the best out of her.
We never really belonged in this spot today but because of being stranded, it was better then her staying in the barn, we now know that she absolutely isn't a route horse, and she probably isn't a dirt horse either. How or why they were betting her today was beyond me

She was never gonna race at the Fairgrounds, the plan all along was for her to be turned out for 60 days and then get ready for races at Arlington going 6f-8f on poly, and we would probably give her a shot on the turf also for the hell of it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:23 PM
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How or why they were betting her today was beyond me
A lot of people still don't trust speed figures.

However, If that race was run in the year 1972, she probably would have been a 4/5 favorite instead of 2/1.
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