Connecticut massacre fallout

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Background checks probably need to be more in depth. As for doctors reporting, perhaps to the atf? Just like a medical doctor reports you to the dmv if you have unexplained blackouts...you get your drivers license suspended for a year in that situation.
As for illegal purchase, thats why i said ban all private sales.

Another of the challenges is, what gets defined as a mental illness severe enough to warrant a handgun restriction? More people die from suicide via gunshot each year than homicide. So does anyone who's ever been diagnosed with depression get a no-gun rule due to fear they'll kill themselves with it? Or just men, because they're more likely to use guns. I'm exaggerating for effect, of course, but that's the challenge- trying to find a mental health rule of thumb for what is a very individualized condition.

I do think greater resources for treating mental ill health. Which would be good, not just for dealing with gun violence, but all kinds of situations.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Another of the challenges is, what gets defined as a mental illness severe enough to warrant a handgun restriction? More people die from suicide via gunshot each year than homicide. So does anyone who's ever been diagnosed with depression get a no-gun rule due to fear they'll kill themselves with it? Or just men, because they're more likely to use guns. I'm exaggerating for effect, of course, but that's the challenge- trying to find a mental health rule of thumb for what is a very individualized condition.

I do think greater resources for treating mental ill health. Which would be good, not just for dealing with gun violence, but all kinds of situations.

I dont know. Maybe its like porn, you know it when you see it?

i don't know. i'm just trying to suggest some things that may or may not bear thinking about. of course whatever happens-we have to understand that life, no matter how much we try to make otherwise, is still random. sometimes sickeningly so. i just know i don't want to read or hear about another mass shooting like this one..any of them for that matter.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Another of the challenges is, what gets defined as a mental illness severe enough to warrant a handgun restriction? More people die from suicide via gunshot each year than homicide. So does anyone who's ever been diagnosed with depression get a no-gun rule due to fear they'll kill themselves with it? Or just men, because they're more likely to use guns. I'm exaggerating for effect, of course, but that's the challenge- trying to find a mental health rule of thumb for what is a very individualized condition.

I do think greater resources for treating mental ill health. Which would be good, not just for dealing with gun violence, but all kinds of situations.

Present law seems to indicate a person has to have already demonstrated that they are dangerous to themselves and others. What if a person indicates in therapy sessions that they fantasize about harming others? Do they actually have to harm someone to be put on the database? Therapist for the Movie theater shooter in Colorado indicated that she was afraid he might do what he eventually did. Must have been something that gave her this impression. Maybe the definition should be expanded to include even threats to other persons from persons that have mental illness, but illness that has not yet presented itself as psychosis.

[Danzig]

why am i surprised??

it seems westboro baptist 'church' has plans to protest at sandy hook elementary.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...GlvbnM-;_ylv=3


After the Westboro Baptist Church posted on Twitter its intention to picket the Newtown, Conn., site where 26 shooting victims died, including 20 children, hackers retaliated.

The reason for the protest? Reportedly because Connecticut has legalized same-sex marriage.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a spokesperson for the Topeka, Kan., Westboro church and daughter of church founder Fred Phelps, put on Twitter, "Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment."

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why am i surprised??

it seems westboro baptist 'church' has plans to protest at sandy hook elementary.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...GlvbnM-;_ylv=3


After the Westboro Baptist Church posted on Twitter its intention to picket the Newtown, Conn., site where 26 shooting victims died, including 20 children, hackers retaliated.

The reason for the protest? Reportedly because Connecticut has legalized same-sex marriage.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a spokesperson for the Topeka, Kan., Westboro church and daughter of church founder Fred Phelps, put on Twitter, "Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment."

The Constitution garantees freedom of speech..Maybe we should re-visit that and the 2nd amendment...said a million times, too many fkn nuts in the country...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

The Constitution garantees freedom of speech..Maybe we should re-visit that and the 2nd amendment...said a million times, too many fkn nuts in the country...

i just wish they'd lose their exempt status. maybe that would put a bite in their finances, and they wouldn't be able to make these trips. it's just a shame that these morons think they have something meaningful to say. they should be classified as a hate group. how in the world are they able to stay a 'church'??

[Arletta]

Sign the petition(s)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Sign the petition(s)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

Ror !! There are some classics ones in there. This deserves its own thread.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why am i surprised??

it seems westboro baptist 'church' has plans to protest at sandy hook elementary.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...GlvbnM-;_ylv=3


After the Westboro Baptist Church posted on Twitter its intention to picket the Newtown, Conn., site where 26 shooting victims died, including 20 children, hackers retaliated.

The reason for the protest? Reportedly because Connecticut has legalized same-sex marriage.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a spokesperson for the Topeka, Kan., Westboro church and daughter of church founder Fred Phelps, put on Twitter, "Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment."

I don't know if theses online petitions every actually go anywhere, but if you believe so, here is one that aims to classify WBC as a "Hate Group" and revoke their 501(c)3 tax-exempt status.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...group/tNVz4V7Q

They needed 25,000 signatures by 1/15/2013, and so far they received 38K in two days.