|
|
 |
|
|
|
#1
12-14-2012, 02:15 PM
|
||||
|
||||
 
|
|
#2
12-14-2012, 02:31 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I like most of the lists. A few horses that I would consider for inclusion:
2YO male sprinter: Cuvee. 2YO turf filly: Melhor Ainda. 3YO turf male: War Chant. Older male sprinter: Speightstown.
|
|
#3
12-14-2012, 02:41 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#4
12-14-2012, 10:07 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
The Iselin was a terrible field and was, yes, another four horse field. The Woodward? St. Liam, a legitimate top class horse, beat the third horse by 9. While you could make an argument for this race being fractured, Bowmans Band figured to lose by 9 to St. Liam. As for the BCC, I can't really say. PleasantlyPerfect could run on his best day, but his two previous races were a loss against Choctaw Nation and a hard fought win over the bestest horse of the decade, Perfect Drift.
|
|
#5
12-15-2012, 05:59 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Roses in May was pretty darn good. Azeri, while not at her peak, was still the champion older mare in '04. Birdstone was a quality horse at 10f+ coming off two nice wins. Even Funny Cide was in pretty good form that fall coming off his win in the JCGC. That was a pretty nice field.
|
|
#6
12-15-2012, 07:20 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I think it is a matter of what you prefer when deciding on who's the best. Some place more emphasis on durability and consistency. Others, myself among them, place more emphasis on who was the best at their best, whether that best was once or repeated several times. I don't think either preference is wrong. Calzone asked if Bo Jackson was better than Emmitt Smith? I say without question yes. The test question for me is simple. Could one do what the other did? Bo obviously was not able to keep healthy as Smith was but it's very easy to reason that with the same health and longevity, Jackson would be able to eclipse Smith’s numbers but Smith could never do what Jackson did. I think you have to define whether you are asking best career or just best. They aren't the same. I go back to 2005. St Liam was voted the champion older male and horse of the year. I doubt anyone disagrees that Ghostzapper was the actual best horse to race in North America that year. What is the point or the value in awarding one when everyone knows that the winner wasn't the best? It's like awarding Charles Barkley the MVP award while saying Michael Jordan is the best player in the game and then watching Jordan beat Barkley to win the championship.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
|
|
#7
12-15-2012, 08:28 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Enjoy the list and debate, It's hard not to place Saint Liam behind Ghostzapper.
__________________
Good jockeys don't need instructions and bad ones don't follow them Last edited by Bogey : 12-15-2012 at 07:43 PM.
|
|
#8
12-15-2012, 09:30 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
The horse who finished 4th and last in the Top Fool was a Grade 1 winner that season. It was a decent race.  Quote:
 Quote:
Quote:
This is like mentioning that Bobby Frankel's barn was in the middle of a 1-for-38 slump when Candy Ride beat Medaglia D' Oro. Pleasantly Perfect was a good horse, in good form and he ran his good race when he finished 3rd by 7 lengths in the Breeders Cup Classic. Roses In May, the 2nd place finisher in that BC Classic, was also a good horse ... he won the Dubai World Cup with ease two starts later and came into the race very accomplished.
|
Hybrid Mode
