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As I said in a previous post, I should not be able to go to a park and chop down a giant tree because it is not my tree and some people may like that tree. I would say the same thing for shooting an animal. If you have a situation where a herd of animals absolutely has to be trimmed for their own good, then hunting may be ok, if there is no reasonable alternative (such as relocating the animals). |
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![]() In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.
An average year sees 350,000 deer shot legally in PA, where would you like to relocate them and who will pay for it? |
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Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do. I realize there are situations where a herd gets so big that something needs to be done. |
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"Animals have just as much right to inhabit the country as we do." I missed that, is it in the Bill of Rights or was it an Amendment? You are silly. |
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![]() You think that is a controversial statement? I think practically everyone would agree that animals have just as much a right to live as we do. Animals obviously don't have the same Constitutional rights as humans, but they still have a right to inhabit the earth.
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"If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think" - Clarence Darrow, American lawyer (1857-1938) When you are right, no one remembers;when you are wrong, no one forgets. Thought for today.."No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong" - Francois, Duc de la Rochefoucauld, French moralist (1613-1680) |
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![]() I have a mainly vegetarian diet but I am not a vegan. If you are a vegan, you need to take Vitamin B12 supplements. That fact alone makes me think that we are not meant to be total vegans. If you eat a ton of meat, you will end up with blocked arteries. That tells me that we are not meant to eat a lot of meat.
I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. I have fish a few times a week. I eat chicken a few times a month. I eat red meat once every month or two. In another thread a couple of months back, we were talking about how much healthier grass-fed beef is. I finally tried grass-fed beef for the first time last week. I thought it was great. I think it is worth the extra money, both in terms of taste and health benefits. |
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![]() That sounds like a reasonable position. I have no problem with that.
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Hunters spend a lot on charities related to conservation and other animal causes. Hunting provides a major source of protein for many families trying to make ends meet during these tough times. http://www.gohuntn.com/gohuntn/968-t...ry-gives-back/ Now about that Deer Relocation effort, I'd be curious as to the logistics? .How would you go about trapping these deer in the many thousands of square miles they live in? .How would you go about transporting all these deer you catch in your relocation effort? .Where would you move these deer to? When you move these deer what metrics would you use to determine when you will have to move them from their new overloaded home? |
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With regards to relocating animals, as I said in my previous posts, I have no idea whether it would be feasible in Pennsylvania. In general, I think there are plenty of cases where it would not be feasible. But there are also cases where it is feasible. I have read about plenty of cases where wild animals were relocated. Wild mustangs have been relocated before. |
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and in most, if not all states, hunters and fisherman are the ones who provide funds for game and fish, natural resources and other budgets thru license and permit fees. ridding the country of hunting and fishing would cause an already bad problem to become a lot worse. there are towns and municipalities here and elsewhere who are having issues with wildlife and their mayhem and destruction. many places have instituted bowhunts and other hunting plans to cut back on the urban deer populations. people like wildlife until it's eating their shrubs and attacking when you're trying to get in your car.
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