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Old 12-12-2012, 10:20 AM
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wolves are dangerous mofo's.

I'd never hunt them for sport.

But if i was out in the wilderness and came across a wolf pack, I'd sure hope i had an automatic weapon on me.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:10 AM
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wolves are dangerous mofo's.

I'd never hunt them for sport.

But if i was out in the wilderness and came across a wolf pack, I'd sure hope i had an automatic weapon on me.
"In the past 100 years, there have been only two incidents in North America, in 2005 and 2010, where wolves have allegedly killed a human being. In comparison to deaths caused by other large carnivores, this is an extremely rare rate of occurrence.
Wolves usually have a natural fear of people that is only eroded when they learn to associate humans and human settlement with opportunities to find food."

http://www.livingwithwolves.org/AW_question1.html

You have a 1000x times greater chance of being killed by a dog. In the US, there are usually over 20 people killed every year by dogs.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:40 AM
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Check out this amazing video of the Warriors and Wolves program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFLCctF0pj8
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:22 AM
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"In the past 100 years, there have been only two incidents in North America, in 2005 and 2010, where wolves have allegedly killed a human being. In comparison to deaths caused by other large carnivores, this is an extremely rare rate of occurrence.
Wolves usually have a natural fear of people that is only eroded when they learn to associate humans and human settlement with opportunities to find food."

http://www.livingwithwolves.org/AW_question1.html

You have a 1000x times greater chance of being killed by a dog. In the US, there are usually over 20 people killed every year by dogs.
Thanks for the sobering statistics showing now besides the maiming, disfiguring of our pets , the destruction of our lifestock and game that it is now gotten to the alarming point that within the last seven years wolfs are not only attacking people and maiming them, they are actually killing them. I think those in charge of conservation have indeed done the right thing. Dismissing Bleeding Heart Liberals such as yourself and doing what is right for the wildlife population and human population. I am glad they don't see life as a Disney movie but the reality that it is. I have all the confidence in the world once they curtail the exploding wolf population (if that ever happens) they will once again shut down the hunting season. Thank god for hunters, they truly are Awesome. Disclosure. I am not a hunter however I respect their right to hunt and will continue to defend them against Bleeding Heart Liberals trying to interject more government into our lives and take away that right.

http://www.saveelk.com/wolf_003.htm
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:34 AM
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Thanks for the sobering statistics showing now besides the maiming, disfiguring of our pets , the destruction of our lifestock and game that it is now gotten to the alarming point that within the last seven years wolfs are not only attacking people and maiming them, they are actually killing them. I think those in charge of conservation have indeed done the right thing. Dismissing Bleeding Heart Liberals such as yourself and doing what is right for the wildlife population and human population. I am glad they don't see life as a Disney movie but the reality that it is. I have all the confidence in the world once they curtail the exploding wolf population (if that ever happens) they will once again shut down the hunting season. Thank god for hunters, they truly are Awesome. Disclosure. I am not a hunter however I respect their right to hunt and will continue to defend them against Bleeding Heart Liberals trying to interject more government into our lives and take away that right.

http://www.saveelk.com/wolf_003.htm
This.
Except I am a hunter, though wolves have yet to make it this far South it has become an increasing concern.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:05 AM
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Who goes to Yellowstone Park to see the most famous wolf in the world?
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:13 AM
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I thought that was Yogi?
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:01 PM
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Thanks for the sobering statistics showing now besides the maiming, disfiguring of our pets , the destruction of our lifestock and game that it is now gotten to the alarming point that within the last seven years wolfs are not only attacking people and maiming them, they are actually killing them. I think those in charge of conservation have indeed done the right thing. Dismissing Bleeding Heart Liberals such as yourself and doing what is right for the wildlife population and human population. I am glad they don't see life as a Disney movie but the reality that it is. I have all the confidence in the world once they curtail the exploding wolf population (if that ever happens) they will once again shut down the hunting season. Thank god for hunters, they truly are Awesome. Disclosure. I am not a hunter however I respect their right to hunt and will continue to defend them against Bleeding Heart Liberals trying to interject more government into our lives and take away that right.

http://www.saveelk.com/wolf_003.htm
You always acted like I was a right winger. Now I'm a bleeding heart liberal all of a sudden? The more I think about it, I may be on the wrong side of this argument. Something needs to be done about these evil wolves! They are bad animals! They need to be killed!

Do you think there are too many government regulations when it comes to hunting (not just wolf hunting but all hunting)? Do you think there should be any regulations?
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:14 PM
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You always acted like I was a right winger. Now I'm a bleeding heart liberal all of a sudden?

Do you think there are too many government regulations when it comes to hunting (not just wolf hunting but all hunting)? Do you think there should be any regulations?
You are very much every thing the right wing is about. Contradiction. As far as do I think there should be more or less regulations, I am not a hunter so I am not the person to ask. That question would best be answered by Clip as he is a hunter. My gut is that those involved in conservation in this country take it very seriously and the regulations in place work.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:32 PM
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You are very much every thing the right wing is about. Contradiction. As far as do I think there should be more or less regulations, I am not a hunter so I am not the person to ask. That question would best be answered by Clip as he is a hunter. My gut is that those involved in conservation in this country take it very seriously and the regulations in place work.
I don't contradict myself at all. I think there should be strong regulation on activities that affect other people. There should be no regulation on things that don't affect other people. I should be able to do whatever I want in the privacy of my own home. If I'm blasting my music and disturbing other people, that is a different story.

As I said in a previous post, I should not be able to go to a park and chop down a giant tree because it is not my tree and some people may like that tree. I would say the same thing for shooting an animal. If you have a situation where a herd of animals absolutely has to be trimmed for their own good, then hunting may be ok, if there is no reasonable alternative (such as relocating the animals).
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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In Pennsylvania alone last year there were 14,000 reported accidents and 41 deaths caused by deer being hit by cars. Certainly hunting helps reduce this number and it is still out of control.

An average year sees 350,000 deer shot legally in PA, where would you like to relocate them and who will pay for it?
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:07 PM
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I don't contradict myself at all. I think there should be strong regulation on activities that affect other people. There should be no regulation on things that don't affect other people. I should be able to do whatever I want in the privacy of my own home. If I'm blasting my music and disturbing other people, that is a different story.

As I said in a previous post, I should not be able to go to a park and chop down a giant tree because it is not my tree and some people may like that tree. I would say the same thing for shooting an animal. If you have a situation where a herd of animals absolutely has to be trimmed for their own good, then hunting may be ok, if there is no reasonable alternative (such as relocating the animals).
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:42 PM
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I am somewhat skeptical of statistics coming from a site whose content creator doesn't know the difference between "lose" and "loose." Or that there is no "e" in "Grizzly."
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:49 PM
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I am somewhat skeptical of statistics coming from a site whose content creator doesn't know the difference between "lose" and "loose." Or that there is no "e" in "Grizzly."
What you are skeptical that the links to all those statistics to seemingly valid news and research articles are wrong becuase that person can't spell?
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:07 PM
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What you are skeptical that the links to all those statistics to seemingly valid news and research articles are wrong becuase that person can't spell?
Yes. And I am even more skeptical after I google the owner of the site and find out Idaho has suspended his hunting and fishing license for three years for elk poaching:

http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?...0#.UMpDS6Wl00s
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:14 PM
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Yes. And I am even more skeptical after I google the owner of the site and find out Idaho has suspended his hunting and fishing license for three years for elk poaching:

http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?...0#.UMpDS6Wl00s
So what does that have to do with the links to external sources?
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