Calumet Farm stallion roster

[Cannon Shell]

What races are you breeding to win from those stallions? Maiden 15 turf races at Tampa or the breeders cup marathon if they decide to move it to the turf?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What races are you breeding to win from those stallions? Maiden 15 turf races at Tampa or the breeders cup marathon if they decide to move it to the turf?

That's what I can't figure out. Was a proven dirt stallion not on his shopping list? Here's a Bloodhorse article on Americain, Aikenite, and Lentenor (mostly Americain): http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truen...stallions.aspx

Just saw that Nicanor's standing at Shamrock Farm in Woodbine, Maryland for $2,500, but Lentenor ends up at Calumet. Curious.

Lentenor apparently retired in October with a tendon injury. Doesn't look like he tried dirt beyond the 4th in the Florida Derby which I thought was nice enough that they wouldn't give up on trying it again. You'd think with what Barbaro got done at Churchill, they'd have tried Lentenor on dirt there in some minor stake, esp. with how turfers do at CD compared to other places. I remember he had some sort of setback at age 2 where Matz had to ease back on his training. He had a few bullet works at least after that, I think. I wonder what happened. Dunno that they'd try to put him on the Derby trail with a wonky tendon, but maybe it developed in the Florida Derby and they just kept him off dirt after that since he could do turf well enough to try for blacktype there.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

That's what I can't figure out. Was a proven dirt stallion not on his shopping list? Here's a Bloodhorse article on Americain, Aikenite, and Lentenor (mostly Americain): http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truen...stallions.aspx

Just saw that Nicanor's standing at Shamrock Farm in Woodbine, Maryland for $2,500, but Lentenor ends up at Calumet. Curious.

Lentenor apparently retired in October with a tendon injury. Doesn't look like he tried dirt beyond the 4th in the Florida Derby which I thought was nice enough that they wouldn't give up on trying it again. You'd think with what Barbaro got done at Churchill, they'd have tried Lentenor on dirt there in some minor stake, esp. with how turfers do at CD compared to other places. I remember he had some sort of setback at age 2 where Matz had to ease back on his training. He had a few bullet works at least after that, I think. I wonder what happened. Dunno that they'd try to put him on the Derby trail with a wonky tendon, but maybe it developed in the Florida Derby and they just kept him off dirt after that since he could do turf well enough to try for blacktype there.

I don't know why he wouldnt want to get an established stallion to build around, especially considering that he has the funds. Not to mention if you hire Lukas to train your horses, standing turf horses doesnt make much sense.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I don't know why he wouldnt want to get an established stallion to build around, especially considering that he has the funds. Not to mention if you hire Lukas to train your horses, standing turf horses doesnt make much sense.

You fool. Have you never heard of Steinlen?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You fool. Have you never heard of Steinlen?

DWL Last 10 years on turf
2003-2012
40 for 534
7%

That is after a big rally this year when he finally decided to run sons of English Channel on the turf

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

DWL Last 10 years on turf
2003-2012
40 for 534
7%

That is after a big rally this year when he finally decided to run sons of English Channel on the turf

Yeah, but Steinlen won a BC turf mile race, not that long ago.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, but Steinlen won a BC turf mile race, not that long ago.

Anything that happened pre-Curlin doesn't count anymore