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Merlinsky 12-01-2012 08:55 PM

Calumet Farm stallion roster
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...o-calumet-farm

The stallions they have going into 2013 so far are Americain, Aikenite, and now Lentenor. Cot Campbell said it was being set up as a breed to race operation back when Aikenite was purchased.

I heard Kelley had several mares bought specifically for Dynaformer so it made sense when Calumet picked up Americain. Lentenor's a curious addition. I guess he didn't want to put all his eggs in one Dynaformer basket so to speak. Lentenor should get a stronger book than you might expect with his race record.

In 'hey that's neat, didn't expect to see him in there' pedigree news, I just noticed Americain has Rosemont on his dam's side.

Cannon Shell 12-02-2012 01:16 PM

What races are you breeding to win from those stallions? Maiden 15 turf races at Tampa or the breeders cup marathon if they decide to move it to the turf?

Merlinsky 12-02-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 904978)
What races are you breeding to win from those stallions? Maiden 15 turf races at Tampa or the breeders cup marathon if they decide to move it to the turf?

That's what I can't figure out. Was a proven dirt stallion not on his shopping list? Here's a Bloodhorse article on Americain, Aikenite, and Lentenor (mostly Americain): http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truen...stallions.aspx

Just saw that Nicanor's standing at Shamrock Farm in Woodbine, Maryland for $2,500, but Lentenor ends up at Calumet. Curious.

Lentenor apparently retired in October with a tendon injury. Doesn't look like he tried dirt beyond the 4th in the Florida Derby which I thought was nice enough that they wouldn't give up on trying it again. You'd think with what Barbaro got done at Churchill, they'd have tried Lentenor on dirt there in some minor stake, esp. with how turfers do at CD compared to other places. I remember he had some sort of setback at age 2 where Matz had to ease back on his training. He had a few bullet works at least after that, I think. I wonder what happened. Dunno that they'd try to put him on the Derby trail with a wonky tendon, but maybe it developed in the Florida Derby and they just kept him off dirt after that since he could do turf well enough to try for blacktype there.

Cannon Shell 12-04-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 905094)
That's what I can't figure out. Was a proven dirt stallion not on his shopping list? Here's a Bloodhorse article on Americain, Aikenite, and Lentenor (mostly Americain): http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/truen...stallions.aspx

Just saw that Nicanor's standing at Shamrock Farm in Woodbine, Maryland for $2,500, but Lentenor ends up at Calumet. Curious.

Lentenor apparently retired in October with a tendon injury. Doesn't look like he tried dirt beyond the 4th in the Florida Derby which I thought was nice enough that they wouldn't give up on trying it again. You'd think with what Barbaro got done at Churchill, they'd have tried Lentenor on dirt there in some minor stake, esp. with how turfers do at CD compared to other places. I remember he had some sort of setback at age 2 where Matz had to ease back on his training. He had a few bullet works at least after that, I think. I wonder what happened. Dunno that they'd try to put him on the Derby trail with a wonky tendon, but maybe it developed in the Florida Derby and they just kept him off dirt after that since he could do turf well enough to try for blacktype there.

I don't know why he wouldnt want to get an established stallion to build around, especially considering that he has the funds. Not to mention if you hire Lukas to train your horses, standing turf horses doesnt make much sense.

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 905204)
I don't know why he wouldnt want to get an established stallion to build around, especially considering that he has the funds. Not to mention if you hire Lukas to train your horses, standing turf horses doesnt make much sense.

You fool. Have you never heard of Steinlen?

Cannon Shell 12-04-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905216)
You fool. Have you never heard of Steinlen?

DWL Last 10 years on turf
2003-2012
40 for 534
7%

That is after a big rally this year when he finally decided to run sons of English Channel on the turf

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 905221)
DWL Last 10 years on turf
2003-2012
40 for 534
7%

That is after a big rally this year when he finally decided to run sons of English Channel on the turf

Yeah, but Steinlen won a BC turf mile race, not that long ago.

Cannon Shell 12-04-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905228)
Yeah, but Steinlen won a BC turf mile race, not that long ago.

Anything that happened pre-Curlin doesn't count anymore

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 905258)
Anything that happened pre-Curlin doesn't count anymore

Curlin? You should have used someone more modern.

Like Zenyatta.

DaTruth 12-04-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 905271)
Curlin? You should have used someone more modern.

Like Zenyatta.

Marlin must have been one of those antebellum horses that DrugS likes to write about.

Indian Charlie 12-05-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 905280)
Marlin must have been one of those antebellum horses that DrugS likes to write about.

What's the over/under on how many times DrugS uses that word now in the next 3 months?

I'm saying 4.5.

richard 12-05-2012 12:51 AM

you are a moron and your stupid posts are a waste of time

Indian Charlie 12-05-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 905286)
you are a moron and your stupid posts are a waste of time

Why thank you!!!

I'm thinking of starting a new poll.

Something along the lines of "Most tiger images used pornographically in a single year" thread. Like, which DT member has used tiger images the most to get off.

Likey?

Merlinsky 02-19-2013 11:44 AM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...o-calumet-farm

Point Given is relocating to Calumet.


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