Petraeus...

[Cannon Shell]

IMO this is a far bigger issue than just a guy getting caught cheating on his old lady. I'm not blaming the white house though I believe that it is 1-9 that they knew about this since the begining. If the head of the CIA is being investgated by the FBI I find it hard to believe the President was out of the loop. The problem is that the head of the CIA was so profoundly stupid and careless about this in the first place. A person in that job should have impeccable integrity and not be so easily manipulated or caught. Being that the entire organization exists to gather intellegence and use leverage and other means to do that, a pretty obvious affair with a relatively unstable woman seems to be a stunningly ignorant move for a man in that position. I'm not naive enough to think that many men in positions of power (or otherwise) arent unfaithful to their spouses but for a guy like Petraeus who seemed to be an ideal candidate for the job to be so amatuerish is scary. I'm sure Mr Putin is having a good laugh over this.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

IMO this is a far bigger issue than just a guy getting caught cheating on his old lady. I'm not blaming the white house though I believe that it is 1-9 that they knew about this since the begining. If the head of the CIA is being investgated by the FBI I find it hard to believe the President was out of the loop. The problem is that the head of the CIA was so profoundly stupid and careless about this in the first place. A person in that job should have impeccable integrity and not be so easily manipulated or caught. Being that the entire organization exists to gather intellegence and use leverage and other means to do that, a pretty obvious affair with a relatively unstable woman seems to be a stunningly ignorant move for a man in that position. I'm not naive enough to think that many men in positions of power (or otherwise) arent unfaithful to their spouses but for a guy like Petraeus who seemed to be an ideal candidate for the job to be so amatuerish is scary. I'm sure Mr Putin is having a good laugh over this.

i just don't see it, sorry. he had an affair. it wasn't and isn't a matter of national security.
as for putin, i recall when clinton had his peccadilloes being bandied about, that much of the rest of the world was saying 'what's the big deal?'.

is it odd timing? sure. but then, i doubt there's ever a good time for the wife of 37 years to find out something like this. he was a powerful man, and powerful men do stupid things, just like the rest of us. but luckily for the rest of us, no one cares what we do.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just don't see it, sorry. he had an affair. it wasn't and isn't a matter of national security.
as for putin, i recall when clinton had his peccadilloes being bandied about, that much of the rest of the world was saying 'what's the big deal?'.

is it odd timing? sure. but then, i doubt there's ever a good time for the wife of 37 years to find out something like this. he was a powerful man, and powerful men do stupid things, just like the rest of us. but luckily for the rest of us, no one cares what we do.

Everything the head of the CIA does is a matter of national security. If he is willing to break the rules and put himself in compomising situations how do we know what he might have been willing to do to keep those secrets?

I'm sure if Mr Putin had information that he could use as leverage on Petraeus do you believe he would hesitate to use that?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Everything the head of the CIA does is a matter of national security. If he is willing to break the rules and put himself in compomising situations how do we know what he might have been willing to do to keep those secrets?

I'm sure if Mr Putin had information that he could use as leverage on Petraeus do you believe he would hesitate to use that?

what rules did petraus break to have an affair? he's not active military, so i doubt there are any rules about having a girl on the side.
it's an affair. it's not a james bond movie, she's not a russian commie, and apparently nothing was compromised.
as for the last sentence, i'm pretty sure that's why he was encouraged to resign, and why he did resign as soon as he was told about the investigation. and i'm sure he feels like a complete and utter fool.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what rules did petraus break to have an affair? he's not active military, so i doubt there are any rules about having a girl on the side.
it's an affair. it's not a james bond movie, she's not a russian commie, and apparently nothing was compromised.
as for the last sentence, i'm pretty sure that's why he was encouraged to resign, and why he did resign as soon as he was told about the investigation. and i'm sure he feels like a complete and utter fool.

What rules did he break?

"While affairs may be commonplace in Washington, when they involve the director of the CIA, things can take on a different tone.

Analysts say there is no evidence that a security breach occurred as a result of the affair, but that hasn't stopped discussion that Broadwell could have gained access to classified information as a result of what she has routinely described as "unprecedented access" to Petraeus.

That discussion seemed to gain momentum Monday thanks to comments Broadwell made in a speech last month at the University of Denver.

"I don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back," Broadwell said.

A senior intelligence official told CNN on Monday, "These detention claims are categorically not true. Nobody was ever held at the annex before, during, or after the attacks."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/pet...ion/index.html


Call me crazy her story makes a lot more sense than the various ones which we have been told. I wonder where she got the idea about that secret CIA prison?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What rules did he break?

"While affairs may be commonplace in Washington, when they involve the director of the CIA, things can take on a different tone.

Analysts say there is no evidence that a security breach occurred as a result of the affair, but that hasn't stopped discussion that Broadwell could have gained access to classified information as a result of what she has routinely described as "unprecedented access" to Petraeus.

That discussion seemed to gain momentum Monday thanks to comments Broadwell made in a speech last month at the University of Denver.

"I don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to get these prisoners back," Broadwell said.

A senior intelligence official told CNN on Monday, "These detention claims are categorically not true. Nobody was ever held at the annex before, during, or after the attacks."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/us/pet...ion/index.html


Call me crazy her story makes a lot more sense than the various ones which we have been told. I wonder where she got the idea about that secret CIA prison?

you mean her story that a senior intel official said wasn't true? hell, anyone can make up stuff. maybe she watches too many movies.
and if you're wondering about people 'covering up' the whole sordid mess:

Last month Republicans thought that Barack Obama’s feckless team had failed Americans in Benghazi. Now they know that the FBI was on to Petraeus this summer, and that the director was talking to the bureau about an affair during the hottest stretch of the scandal.

Those facts are going to prompt more questions. Two House Republicans learned of a scandal that was ensnaring national security figures, and did not run to the press with it.

[cal828]

CNN was reporting earlier tonight that Ms. Broadwell did have classified information on her computer, but she claims she didn't get it from the General. No explanation of where the classified info came from.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you mean her story that a senior intel official said wasn't true? hell, anyone can make up stuff. maybe she watches too many movies.
and if you're wondering about people 'covering up' the whole sordid mess:

Last month Republicans thought that Barack Obama’s feckless team had failed Americans in Benghazi. Now they know that the FBI was on to Petraeus this summer, and that the director was talking to the bureau about an affair during the hottest stretch of the scandal.

Those facts are going to prompt more questions. Two House Republicans learned of a scandal that was ensnaring national security figures, and did not run to the press with it.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the senor intellegence officials are not usually in the business of admitting that that had secret CIA prisons in embasies that were recently bombed and US officials killed.