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Old 10-31-2012, 09:25 PM
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Fraud.
About what? You call me liar for things I didn't say. You call me fraud because you don't like that national pollsters I quote - including the Rasmussen you posted - have Obama winning the election by multiple electoral votes?

You can't understand, three times, using your poll, I explain trends to you about Florida? So you call me names? Because you can't keep up?

If you can't understand how Florida being red on a poll today means Obama will win Florida, after I explained the concept of "trends" to you three times, how does your inability to "get it" make me deserving of verbal abuse by you, Sugartits?

Too bad for you. Call names. Does it make you feel better about your candidate losing?

What are you - five years old?
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:36 PM
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About what? You call me liar for things I didn't say. You call me fraud because you don't like that national pollsters I quote - including the Rasmussen you posted - have Obama winning the election by multiple electoral votes?

You can't understand, three times, using your poll, I explain trends to you about Florida? So you call me names? Because you can't keep up?

If you can't understand how Florida being red on a poll today means Obama will win Florida, after I explained the concept of "trends" to you three times, how does your inability to "get it" make me deserving of verbal abuse by you, Sugartits?

Too bad for you. Call names. Does it make you feel better about your candidate losing?

What are you - five years old?
Yes I'm 5. I excelled in cut/paste in preschool.

How do you explain that you claimed FL as "Likely Obama" when your own poll disputes this and you cite .05% of the state (all in a solid blue county) as your basis?
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:43 PM
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Yes I'm 5. I excelled in cut/paste in preschool.

How do you explain that you claimed FL as "Likely Obama" when your own poll disputes this and you cite .05% of the state (all in a solid blue county) as your basis?
Oh, and for the record, you called me a "Moronic Idiot" before I called you Sugartits. So there's that. Plus I wound up making Hossy throw up, which I regret.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:47 PM
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Yes I'm 5. I excelled in cut/paste in preschool.

How do you explain that you claimed FL as "Likely Obama" when your own poll disputes this and you cite .05% of the state (all in a solid blue county) as your basis?
For the fourth time - please, read slowly and carefully:

I said that Obama will win Florida. Why? The trending in Florida is Romney falling, Obama rising. Multiple polls. I even used your Rasmussen poll that shows this trend is true over the past five days (which I linked to).
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:53 PM
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For the fourth time - please, read slowly and carefully:

I said that Obama will win Florida. Why? The trending in Florida is Romney falling, Obama rising. I even used your Rasmussen poll that shows this trend is true over the past five days (which I linked to).
No, you didn't. You said that Obama was most likely based on the 538 or whatever the NYT guy said. I disputed that by presenting the 538 data.

Then you brought out the gmu.edu site which only represented 50,000 votes in in the most left county in the state.

And you got called out.

And you can't respond. You misrepresented yourself. I understand. passion can run wild at times. I don't hold it against you.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:06 PM
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No, you didn't. You said that Obama was most likely based on the 538 or whatever the NYT guy said. I disputed that by presenting the 538 data.
Trends cover the data over time - not one day. Yes, all polls have Obama trending up in Florida 538 is a "poll of polls", an aggregator. TPM is an aggregator. You linked Rasmussen, one of the polls the aggregators use.

All polls show Obama trending up in Florida, and Romney down. Yes - even though in a snapshot of today Romney may be ahead by a half a point to a point.

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Then you brought out the gmu.edu site which only represented 50,000 votes in in the most left county in the state.

And you got called out.
Uh, no. You falsely accused me of somehow secretly getting my hands on voters data (I never said that). I then told you that you clearly do not know how the results data on early voting is made available to the public, and linked to the site so you can learn.

You refused to even move down to the applicable part of the site, instead choosing to link to various other information media links at the top and railing on about Huffington Post.

Yeah - big difference in understanding about polls and websites between you and I.

Now - you say Romney will win Florida. Do you have anything other than a one-day snapshot poll of him being barely ahead to support your contention? Because the trends all have Obama overcoming him and winning the state.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:22 PM
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You refused to even move down to the applicable part of the site, instead choosing to link to various other information media links at the top and railing on about Huffington Post.

Yeah - big difference in understanding about polls and websites between you and I.

Now - you say Romney will win Florida. Do you have anything other than a one-day snapshot poll of him being barely ahead to support your contention? Because the trends are have Obama overcoming him and winning the state.
Again, not true. Your NYT poll disguised as some "patriarch of election virtue" proved your assertions false.

I then waded through the propaganda link you provided (again disputing you ridiculous claim above) to expose the fact that your analysis was based on early results of only .05% of the population of the state, in ONE county, that has been historically left leaning.


You, in turn, called me a liar, drunk, idiot etc. for pointing that fact out.

Hysterically funny, since anyone who actually knows me is laughing their guts out at this.

Hope you feel better about yourself, if that's what gets you through the day.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:27 PM
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Again, not true. Your NYT poll disguised as some "patriarch of election virtue" proved your assertions false.
How? You are now confusing two different things. Yes, 538 has always had Obama above 270 votes (I gave the link, you never looked at it).

Yes, 538 aggregate trending has Obama moving up in Florida, Romney down. As does TPM. As does your Rasmussen poll. As does several other polls.

BTW, your Rasmussen poll you posted gives Obama a massive victory - even bigger than 538.

And 538/Nate Silver is extremely well-respected and accurate in polling, even if you've never heard of him and want to dismiss him out of hand (which is laughable)

Dude - you just posted an opinion article by Karl Rove. Talk about "not objective" ! LOL !

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I then waded through the propaganda link you provided (again disputing you ridiculous claim above) to expose the fact that your analysis was based on early results of only .05% of the population of the state that has been historically left leaning.
Dude - you are just not following along You are confusing electoral votes nationally with Florida win.

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You, in turn, called me a liar, drunk, idiot etc. for pointing that fact out.
No, I asked if you were drunk because you are clearly not following the conversation. And you called me liar - you might look back at your posts.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:22 PM
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Here is a different analysis of the data:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ctions_opinion

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnist...-the-landslide
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