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Old 10-28-2012, 04:21 PM
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When Harry Reid came out with false allegations (and no money) about Romney paying no taxes and many here were saying 'what does he have to hide' where were you?

This is similar only $5 million on the table for charity.

What is the President hiding?

In addition to the 'bumps in the road' that were left to die in Lybia.
Trump's stunt has been criticized by most people with a brain for what it is. A stunt for attention.

You don't give attention seekers what they want. I can't put it any more simply than that.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:31 PM
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how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:55 PM
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how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?
Donald Trump says it's big. It's really big. It's huge. He's sent investigators to Hawaii, and you won't believe what they've found.

Which was apparently nothing at all.

Because Trumps lies about that big Hawaiian investigator reveal died on the vine and he never spoke of those investigators again.
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Obviously the Mainstream Media is trustworthy and represents what this country stands for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9WCnh0r44c

That never happened.

But lets get fu.cking heated when the conservative sites go off the ledge.

You ***** liberals are going to gladly give up your guns...then your freedom of speech.

Tell you what ***** Californian punk who is the shining example of the emasculation of white men in this country...

You are nothing. A useful idiot for evil and darkness and you're too god-damned dense to realize it.

Might as well move to Russia, punk.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:31 PM
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Trump's stunt has been criticized by most people with a brain for what it is. A stunt for attention.

You don't give attention seekers what they want. I can't put it any more simply than that.
I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:57 PM
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I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!
Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:00 PM
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Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.
Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:10 PM
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Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?

Kinda weak response there dell, you getting tired..take a break till after the election and come back firing when your boy is the Prez..
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:20 PM
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Kinda weak response there dell, you getting tired..take a break till after the election and come back firing when your boy is the Prez..

When a President refuses to answer whether he watched the video of American's dying or pretending to not hear the question despite everyone else hearing it, that's transparency?
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:12 PM
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Transparency! You know what Obama ran on?
Yeah, Obama's been awfully transparent, releasing his effing birth certificate and all that, thanks.

I can't believe any elected President of these United States has been forced to do that by the conspiracy loons in this country.

Reminds me Mitt Romney hasn't released even 1 full year of taxes, and that revealed multiple attempts to hide money from the IRS. No transparency is the reason Romney will never be President.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:16 PM
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Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.
I don't think it would give Trump credibility. If Obama took Trump up on the offer and he released the records and there was nothing significant in the records, Trump would look like a fool. Trump thinks the records will show that Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama released the records and it showed he was born in the US, Trump would be eating crow.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:23 PM
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The President already revealed Donald Trump as a conspiracy loon by releasing his long form birth certificate.

Trump has been eating crow.
Trump was proven wrong.
Trump is too stupid to realize he's become a laughingstock.

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico, into a polygamist cult, and nobody is demanding Romney's birth certificate. Silence.

John Sununu, Mitt Romney's favorite dog-whistle blower, was born in Cuba. Silence.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone. Nobody asks for his birth certificate. Silence.

Barack Obama's father was born in Kenya, yet the demands never shut up, even after all the facts show he was beyond a doubt born in Hawaii. That's racism.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:41 PM
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The President already revealed Donald Trump as a conspiracy loon by releasing his long form birth certificate.

Trump has been eating crow.
Trump was proven wrong.
Trump is too stupid to realize he's become a laughingstock.

Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico, into a polygamist cult, and nobody is demanding Romney's birth certificate. Silence.

John Sununu, Mitt Romney's favorite dog-whistle blower, was born in Cuba. Silence.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone. Nobody asks for his birth certificate. Silence.

Barack Obama's father was born in Kenya, yet the demands never shut up, even after all the facts show he was beyond a doubt born in Hawaii. That's racism.
Nobody has disputed where McCain, Romney, or Sununu were born. If people start disputing it then it could be an issue. But since there has never been any evidence disputing it, it has never been an issue.

I think you are way off base about thinking it is racism. If it was simply racism, why haven't other black candidates been questioned about where they were born? Jesse Jackson ran for President. Nobody questioned where he was born. Herman Cain ran for President. Nobody questioned where he was born. When Clarence Thomas was elected to the Supreme Court, did anyone question where he was born? Has anyone ever questioned where Alan Keyes or Colin Powell were born?

Whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not, there has certainly been enough stuff out there that would make any logical person wonder. First of all, he first claimed he was born in one hospital. Then he changed his story and claimed he was born in a different hospital. I could go on and on.

Going back to the subject of his literary agency saying that he was born in Kenya, the agency claims that his agent's intern wrote the bio. If nobody told the intern that Obama was born in Kenya, then why did she write that he was born in Kenya? Where did she come up with that? Did it just come out of thin air? Are you saying that nobody told her that he was born in Kenya but she just decided to write it any way? I can't think of any logical explanation. But even if you can come up with some ridiculous explanation, then you still have to explain why his agent didn't correct the mistake. It is beyond far-fetched to think that a successful literary agent would allow a bio written by an intern to be distributed without the agent reading it first. The agent would have obviously read it and if there were any mistakes in the bio, the agent would have corrected it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:33 PM
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Nobody has disputed where McCain, Romney, or Sununu were born. If people start disputing it then it could be an issue. But since there has never been any evidence disputing it, it has never been an issue.
Rup, that's the entire point - nobody even bothers to ask or question. It doesn't even cross their minds to question those guys because they are white.

The attacks on Obama over the past six years have been outrageous. There are no deep, dark secrets. Trump with his "we know nothing about this president" is just a silly lie. How dare he say such crap.

Obama's life is an open book, he's written two books, there are tons of people that knew him when he worked privately as a lawyer, and at school. His life is out there, readily verified. And HAS been verified, repeatedly.

I can't believe the right wing conspiracy loons who believe differently. They literally deny the existence of fact.

His mother is a whiter-than-white American citizen from Kansas. His grandparents are whiter-than-white Kansas small-town Americans, his father fought in WW2, his mother worked at a bank.

Like John McCain, like George Romney, it would not matter where Obama was born, he has American citizenship automatically due to his mother being a citizen.

But Obama is painted as foreign and dangerous, and the white guys are not even questioned.

But the facts are, he was born in Hawaii. Proven beyond a doubt. The US government vets birth certificates when the candidate applies to run for President, and nobody ever questioned the truth that the guy was born in the United States.

It's 100% political smear as "the other" "he's dangerous" "he's not one of us". The fact that this guys citizenship was even questioned, that it had to be proven, that this candidate was and is repeated smeared and painted as "the other" "the Kenyan" "the Muslim" is, indeed, simply racism.
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I don't think it would give Trump credibility. If Obama took Trump up on the offer and he released the records and there was nothing significant in the records, Trump would look like a fool. Trump thinks the records will show that Obama was born in Kenya. If Obama released the records and it showed he was born in the US, Trump would be eating crow.
What you don't get is Trump already looks like a fool. This stunt of his backfired badly and the only ones who don't seem to get it are you and Dell.
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:47 PM
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What you don't get is Trump already looks like a fool. This stunt of his backfired badly and the only ones who don't seem to get it are you and Dell.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:13 PM
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What you don't get is Trump already looks like a fool. This stunt of his backfired badly and the only ones who don't seem to get it are you and Dell.
I tend to agree with you although I think your point is a little overstated. I don't know if Trump looks like a fool but I don't think too many people care about the Trump offer. I don't think Trump has all that much credibility. The media is kind of making a joke out of it and that obviously doesn't help Trump.
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