How Selfish Can Omama Be

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Extortion? I have to compliment you in your ability to twist things upside down. Extortion is when you demand payment from someone and threaten to do something to them or expose something about them if they don't make the payment. When you do the opposite and offer someone cash, I don't think that quite qualifies as extortion.

Trump is a "has-been clown"? He is probably bigger now than he has ever been (partially due to his hit show). I think he is a little bit of a boob but I still kind of like him.

Kind of like Harry Reid with a make-believe informer accusing Romney of not paying taxes?

When Romney is in fact giving more to charity per year than Obama has made in a lifetime (minus his taxpayer paid salaries)!

$5 million can organize a lot of community.

Transparency at its best!

Release apps/grades for a bunch of cash

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Kind of like Harry Reid with a make-believe informer accusing Romney of not paying taxes?

When Romney is in fact giving more to charity per year than Obama has made in a lifetime (minus his taxpayer paid salaries)!

$5 million can organize a lot of community.

Transparency at it best!

Release apps/grades for a bunch of cash

Didn't you know that when someones offers you a bunch of cash, that is extortion? For example, when a sports team signs a player to a big contract, that is actually extortion. If someone offers you a job to work them and they will pay you $100,000 a year, they are actually extorting you. I never realized that before, but now that I know Riot's new definition of extortion, I guess when you get offered money to do something, that is extortion.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Didn't you know that when someones offers you a bunch of cash, that is extortion? For example, when a sports team signs a player to a big contract, that is actually extortion. If someone offers you a job to work them and they will pay you $100,000 a year, they are actually extorting you. I never realized that before, but now that I know Riot's new definition of extortion, I guess when you get offered money to do something, that is extortion.

This is dumb....even for you.

If some liberal millionaire offered Romney 5 million dollars for any charity he wanted to tell people about his magical mystery tax plan that he repeatedly has refused to answer, would you advocate him doing it?

Try and be honest when you answer.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is dumb....even for you.

If some liberal millionaire offered Romney 5 million dollars for any charity he wanted to tell people about his magical mystery tax plan that he repeatedly has refused to answer, would you advocate him doing it?

Try and be honest when you answer.

They shouldn't have to pay Romney anything. He should answer any questions he can about his tax plan. I think he has already answered plenty of questions about his tax plan. He has layed out his general plan. He obviously does not know every detail of the plan. He knows the general plan. He's not going to get to implement everything he wants to implement. There will have to be compromise or else congress will not approve it.

Even if he has every detail of his plan already laid out, that is not the plan we're going to get. The plan we're going to get will be the compromise he works out with democrats and republicans in the House and Senate. Candidates usually lay out their general plan, but not every detail, because they don't know every detail.

Whatever details he does have of his current plan, he should make public. I think he's already done that. If he hasn't, then he should. If he has the plan and he won't release it, then I would say he obviously has something to hide.

[Dahoss]

So was that a yes or a no?

It's a simple question and doesn't require a wordy post where you try and act smart.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So was that a yes or a no?

It's a simple question and doesn't require a wordy post where you try and act smart.

My answer was clearly "yes". He should release as many details of his plan as he knows, regardless of whether he gets paid or not.

[Riot]

Speaking of Mitt Romney, he has "gone dark" for these last two weeks, refusing to speak to the press entirely. That means he's desperate not to make more gaffs in the last two weeks, and doesn't want to get caught out because he still has not revealed his taxes, nor explained how his disastrous financial "plan" can't work.

So this guy has managed to bully his way through a presidential, not revealing his income taxes (just enough to reveal he has massive tax havens and hidden income); no definitive plans for anything (only platitudes and generalities on his website); and has spent the past 2 weeks completely reversing every position he has taken during the campaign, in an appeal to "moderate" voters and while throwing the Republican platform under the bus, in a desperate attempt to gain power.

Romney with Paul Ryan is so incompetent to be president it's not even laughable. It's terrifying. Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Mike Huckabee, Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin - they are all one and the same regarding presidential timber.

Thank goodness, the last time we'll hear from this one is his concession speech Nov. 6. Then he's done with politics because "You People" anger his wife. Unlike Sarah Palin, Mittens won't be working at Faux.

So ... Republicans 2016: Big. Fat. Nothing. on their bench.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is dumb....even for you.

If some liberal millionaire offered Romney 5 million dollars for any charity he wanted to tell people about his magical mystery tax plan that he repeatedly has refused to answer, would you advocate him doing it?

Try and be honest when you answer.

When Harry Reid came out with false allegations (and no money) about Romney paying no taxes and many here were saying 'what does he have to hide' where were you?

This is similar only $5 million on the table for charity.

What is the President hiding?

In addition to the 'bumps in the road' that were left to die in Lybia.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When Harry Reid came out with false allegations (and no money) about Romney paying no taxes and many here were saying 'what does he have to hide' where were you?

This is similar only $5 million on the table for charity.

What is the President hiding?

In addition to the 'bumps in the road' that were left to die in Lybia.

Trump's stunt has been criticized by most people with a brain for what it is. A stunt for attention.

You don't give attention seekers what they want. I can't put it any more simply than that.

[hi_im_god]

how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

how many weeks after the president releases his transcripts does a hard hitting joe arpaio investigation determine they were forgeries?

Donald Trump says it's big. It's really big. It's huge. He's sent investigators to Hawaii, and you won't believe what they've found.

Which was apparently nothing at all.

Because Trumps lies about that big Hawaiian investigator reveal died on the vine and he never spoke of those investigators again.

Obviously the Mainstream Media is trustworthy and represents what this country stands for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9WCnh0r44c

That never happened.

But lets get fu.cking heated when the conservative sites go off the ledge.

You ***** liberals are going to gladly give up your guns...then your freedom of speech.

Tell you what ***** Californian punk who is the shining example of the emasculation of white men in this country...

You are nothing. A useful idiot for evil and darkness and you're too god-damned dense to realize it.

Might as well move to Russia, punk.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Trump's stunt has been criticized by most people with a brain for what it is. A stunt for attention.

You don't give attention seekers what they want. I can't put it any more simply than that.

I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I agree he needs/wants attention but with $5 million on the table for the taking and nothing more than releasing grades and transcripts what's the problem? Unless he's hiding something. And even if he is how bad would it be if Obama got a scholarship because he lied and said he was a foreign exchange student?

It's not like he's asking Obama to tea-bag him!

Once again, he shouldn't do it because it gives credibility to people like Trump. It has nothing to do with hiding something.

Whether anyone likes it or not...he's the President. Why does the President have to do something because Donald Trump is pressuring him to? And if he did agree to do it, wouldn't it open up the possibility for anyone with money to do what Trump is trying to do?

where should it stop? Should the President jump through hoops anytime a guy with money requests something as long as he decides to donate the money for charity?

Come on man.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is dumb....even for you.

If some liberal millionaire offered Romney 5 million dollars for any charity he wanted to tell people about his magical mystery tax plan that he repeatedly has refused to answer, would you advocate him doing it?

Try and be honest when you answer.

By the way, this notion that Romney has not released enough specific details of his tax plan is a total red herring. Romney has released more details than most Presidential candidates in the past. When has a Presidential candidate ever gotten more specific than Romney? Even the mainstream media has admitted that Romney has released far more details about his plan than not only Obama did in 2008, but most Presidential candidates over the years.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

By the way, this notion that Romney has not released enough specific details of his tax plan is a total red herring. Romney has released more details than most Presidential candidates in the past. When has a Presidential candidate ever gotten more specific than Romney? Even the mainstream media has admitted that Romney has released far more details about his plan than not only Obama did in 2008, but most Presidential candidates over the years.

No, it's not.

But since I haven't seen the mainstream media admitting Romney has released far more details about his plan than Obama did in 2008, can you provide a link or something? Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it.

[Riot]

Romney's Other Credibility Problem: Glenn Hubbard
Posted: 10/27/2012 8:50 am

Mitt Romney has a credibility problem. He changes his beliefs like laundry (abortion, medical insurance, whether Bin Laden was worth killing, attacking Iran), refuses to disclose his tax returns, and won't explain how he could possibly pay for the tax cuts he proposes.

But there is another scandal in Romney's campaign -- namely Glenn Hubbard, Romney's chief economic advisor, who was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors under George W. Bush, and is now Dean of Columbia Business School.

I interviewed Hubbard for my documentary film Inside Job, and analyzed his record again for my book Predator Nation. The film interview became famous because Hubbard blew his cool after I interrogated him about his conflicts of interest: "This isn't a deposition, sir. I was polite enough to give you time, foolishly I now see, but you have three more minutes. Give it your best shot." But the really important thing about Hubbard isn't his personality; it's that as an economist and an advisor, he is a total, unmitigated disaster.

First, Hubbard has an abysmal track record in economic policy, including the very issues that Romney has made the pillar of his Presidential campaign.

Second, like Romney, Hubbard refuses to disclose critical information about his income, conflicts of interest, and paid advocacy activities.

Third, both in public statements and in my personal experience, Hubbard has been evasive, misleading, and even dishonest when discussing both policy issues and his own conflicts of interest.

And last but not least, those conflicts of interest are huge: Hubbard has long advocated policies that Wall Street loves, often without disclosing that he is, in fact, highly paid by Wall Street.

Let's start with tax cuts, since Romney claims that he can cut tax rates sharply without increasing the deficit, and without benefiting the rich. Mr. Romney claims that tax cuts will be fully paid for by closing loopholes and deductions, and will not add to the deficit; Hubbard has publicly supported Romney's claims.

Interestingly, Mr. Hubbard has quite a record on this very issue. Shortly after becoming chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors in 2001, he spearheaded the Bush administration's tax cuts, and he said lots about them.

How did that work out? First, we now know that over half of the benefits of the Bush-Hubbard tax cuts went to the top 1% of the population.

In part to benefit the wealthy, the tax cuts were also structured to reward investment in financial assets, rather than either consumer spending or real capital investment.

As a result, the tax cuts caused huge budget deficits, yet did little to stimulate growth or job creation: There were basically no new jobs created during the Bush administration, despite adding trillions to the national debt.

Continued

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charle...b_2029609.html

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No, it's not.

But since I haven't seen the mainstream media admitting Romney has released far more details about his plan than Obama did in 2008, can you provide a link or something? Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it.

I'll see if I can find anything about it in print. I heard it on CNN after one of the debates. When criticism about the lack of specifics came up about Romney's plan, one of the commentators said something to the effect of, "In fairness to Romney, he has released more details of his plan than candidates in the past and much more of a detailed plan than Obama gave in 2008." The reporter then referenced several other past Presidents and said that they did not give many specifics about their plan.