Presidential debate tonight

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

The "pro-Obama" people have a president of superior personal likeability that can run on his quite accomplished record.

Stop, I'm going to split my side laughing!!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Stop, I'm going to split my side laughing!!!

What do think is so "funny" about Obama's factual list of accomplishments?

Lowering your taxes to historic lows?
Lowering small business taxes?
Preventing a depression?
Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?
Extending the life of Medicare 8 years?
Uncovering multiple instances of massive Medicare fraud and saving us billions?
Giving you significant health care protections?
Creating consumer financial protection agency?
Fair pay act for women?
Eliminating waste in education by eliminating banks as profit middlemen for student loans?
Allowing non-criminal DREAM Act kids an application process for work visas?
Deporting more illegal aliens than any other president?
Ending DADT?
Killing bin Laden and decimating al Quaeda - you know, the terrorist cell that killed 3000 Americans?
Ending the war in Iraq?
Continuing pullout on Afghanistan?
Opening up dead warriors returning home to press? (Bush hid it, forbade coverage)
Attempted to close GITMO (blocked by fearful Americans)
Signing free trade agreements?
Historic sanctions on China?
Most sanctions ever on Iran?
Unifying international community regarding Libya, Syria?

Oh, yeah: and all that was accomplished with complete attempted obstruction by the opposition political party.

If Obama was Republican, we'd be screaming to put his damn visage on Mt. Rushmore. Instead we have lie after lie about the man. It's pathetic. The facts of what this man has accomplished for this country are beyond party preference.

Bush had eight years: where is his list of accomplishments? Romney promises to be Bush 3 - without the intelligence of a Cheney in the WH.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

If Obama was Republican, we'd be screaming to put his damn visage on Mt. Rushmore. Instead we have lie after lie about the man. It's pathetic. The facts of what this man has accomplished for this country are beyond party preference.

OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh?

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh?

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us

How about "accomplishing" a record $16,000,000,000,000 in debt, with $1,000,000,000,000+ deficits for as far as the eye can see, assuming anyone is still stupid enough to keep lending us money we can't pay back.

Oh, yeah, what happens when they don't? Splat - there goes the whole economy and the dollar dies first.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

How about "accomplishing" a record $16,000,000,000,000 in debt,

The president is not responsible for 100% of our debt and you know it.

Please - list this presidents personal contribution to our debt. Itemize, please. Fact is, this president has contributed very little to our debt, especially compared to the massive fiscal recklessness of the last 2 administrations.

with $1,000,000,000,000+ deficits for as far as the eye can see, assuming anyone is still stupid enough to keep lending us money we can't pay back.

Your hysterical hyperbole and use of excessive zeros is sad. You apparently are confusing debt with deficit - this president has cut the deficit by 3% of GDP.

And by the way? When the Bush Tax Cuts expire January 1, 2013, that alone will cause our debt to be cut in half in about 10 years.

Life in America is so much more fun in reality-land.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

The president is not responsible for 100% of our debt and you know it.

Please - list this presidents personal contribution to our debt. Itemize, please.



You apparently are confusing debt with deficit - this president has cut the deficit by 3% of GDP.

No, I'm afraid you are confusing the two. The deficit is the amount of shortfall in a year, and if that is not paid by the end of that year, the outstanding amount is added to the cumulative debt.

The 3% cut you refer to is evidently nonsense, as the deficits, however reported, are going up, not down, and are larger than GW Bush's deficits. You can't cut something by 3% and have a larger number.

Or are you going to say that the GDP itself increased in spite of the high unemployment? That would also require some explaining.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, it's easy to make the above statement, and difficult to factually dispute that list. You can't do it, huh?

Tell us, Rude - what specific items on that list are you angry were accomplished, and you think are bad for America?

List them for us

When you start your list by taking full credit for extending someone else's tax plan, you come off a bit disingenuous.

then roll into how 3 QE programs "Prevented a depression"... OMG that's a classic!

Then you spew these dis-proven lies:

Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?

which you know full well the GAO has said are false -


It just get funnier and funnier.

You are a complete fraud - no wonder you're such a fan of this trainwreck!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

When you start your list by taking full credit for extending someone else's tax plan, you come off a bit disingenuous.

Nope. I am not talking about only stimulus spending, or the Bush Tax cuts - Obama passed his own tax cuts on top of that.

You don't like that? Yes or no? You are simply unawares they exist, apparently?

then roll into how 3 QE programs "Prevented a depression"... OMG that's a classic!

That's not what I said. I don't attribute QE to Obama. I am not talking about QE at all. I am talking about things Obama did.

Then you spew these dis-proven lies:

Lowering the deficit by 3% of GDP?
Lowering fiscal spending to a 40-year low?
Creating 5.2 million jobs in 3 years?

Sorry - those are not "disproven lies", those are fact, according to the CBO.

which you know full well the GAO has said are false -

No. I've never, ever seen the GAO say those are "false" - please, quote those statements here for us. You say the CBO is lying? Or has been proven false? Please, you threw the accusation out there, prove it. Should be easy for you if it's such common knowledge.

It just get funnier and funnier.

You are a complete fraud - no wonder you're such a fan of this trainwreck

Calling names as a distraction is about what you usually do - I am willing to ignore your rudeness and straw man attempt - can you go back and insert some facts into your assertions, and leave the name-calling behind? It seems, from your comments above, that you are unawares of quite a bit surrounding what has happened in this country the past 4 years.

[alysheba4]

sounds like everthing is hunky dory.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

OMG I REALLY AM GOING TO SPLIT MT SIDES FROM LAUGHING!!!

i really cant believe she put gitmo on that list..


nevermind.. yes i can really believe that.


Go Romney!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i really cant believe she put gitmo on that list..


nevermind.. yes i can really believe that.


Go Romney!

Yes, Obama tried to close GITMO. Just as he promised he'd do. Blocked by both Islamophobic Dems and GOP. Yes, I put that on the list.