Reality - or why this president will be re-elected

jms62 · #1 10-03-2012, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ron Paul would be a terrible candidate because he is absolutely unelectable. In 1912 he could get elected. In 2012 he would have no chance.

Why so you say this other then the obvious that he couldn t even get the republican nod vs Romney.

Antitrust32 · #2 10-03-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Why so you say this other then the obvious that he couldn t even get the republican nod vs Romney.

because he's an isolationist, which the majority of this country isnt supportive of, even if its the best thing we can do as a country.

he's fairly extreme when it comes to conservatism, eventhough I believe he is extremely correct.. and it seems like republicans only want extreme if you are extremely religious and anti-gay.

people arent ready to give up their crutch, their government... we as a country have become WAY to dependant on government... people arent ready for a truely small federal government and more states rights.

Chuck is correct, 1912 is when Ron Paul had his best chance.

Personally, I'm ready to correct this bloated, nasty thing we call Washington... and get it mostly out of my life.

Too bad it will not happen. Government today is too big of a business.

Danzig · #3 10-03-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

because he's an isolationist, which the majority of this country isnt supportive of, even if its the best thing we can do as a country.

he's fairly extreme when it comes to conservatism, eventhough I believe he is extremely correct.. and it seems like republicans only want extreme if you are extremely religious and anti-gay.

people arent ready to give up their crutch, their government... we as a country have become WAY to dependant on government... people arent ready for a truely small federal government and more states rights.

Chuck is correct, 1912 is when Ron Paul had his best chance.

Personally, I'm ready to correct this bloated, nasty thing we call Washington... and get it mostly out of my life.

Too bad it will not happen. Government today is too big of a business.

it's really too bad we got away from being isolationist. we stayed out of both world wars until we pretty much got our hand forced in the second one...even after the sinking of the lusitania, killing american civies, we still didn't enter ww1 til the zimmerman note.
and then of course we just had to fight communism. sheesh. now, in gulf one, we did it correctly. game hussein plenty of time to get out, got the world together on it, and crushed him quickly and decisively and got kuwait taken care of. one of our few recent foreign policy issues we got perfect. that's probably the only armed conflict since ww2 that we got right.

bigrun · #4 10-03-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it's really too bad we got away from being isolationist. we stayed out of both world wars until we pretty much got our hand forced in the second one...even after the sinking of the lusitania, killing american civies, we still didn't enter ww1 til the zimmerman note.
and then of course we just had to fight communism. sheesh. now, in gulf one, we did it correctly. game hussein plenty of time to get out, got the world together on it, and crushed him quickly and decisively and got kuwait taken care of. one of our few recent foreign policy issues we got perfect. that's probably the only armed conflict since ww2 that we got right.

absolutely...Now if bush2 had read his dad's book we wouldn't be in the mess we are now...

Cannon Shell · #5 10-03-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Why so you say this other then the obvious that he couldn t even get the republican nod vs Romney.

Because he is a strange looking fella that has fairly radical ideas (compared to the typical presidential telling them what they want to hear) and wont either simply play to his base or follow the company line. Mostly because he doesnt look "presidential" enough. Americans dont want to have to understand issues or do homework. They love slogans and false promises. He isnt very good at those.

jms62 · #6 10-03-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because he is a strange looking fella that has fairly radical ideas (compared to the typical presidential telling them what they want to hear) and wont either simply play to his base or follow the company line. Mostly because he doesnt look "presidential" enough. Americans dont want to have to understand issues or do homework. They love slogans and false promises. He isnt very good at those.

I wish I could tell you that you are wrong however you are 100% right and we lose either way.

Riot · #7 10-03-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

I wish I could tell you that you are wrong however you are 100% right and we lose either way.

At least Ron Paul was consistent and open in his beliefs across his career, and was a painfully honest libertarian (strange as he carried a few beliefs that are opposite to his Hippocratic oath and his actual actions as a doctor).

His son Rand, who Paul wants to inherit his base, is a shape-shifter, and quite unlikeable and angry. A dangerous man I want nowhere near power. I never had that fear about Ron Paul.

#8 10-03-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

The president is not Muslim.

He looks like an Egyptian and walks like an Egyptian( song plug)....then he is an Egyptian.

The president is a citizen of the United States.

See Above.

This president is not a socialist, he is a slightly left-of-center technocrat that infuriates the left-wing because he actually mirrors Republican president Eisenhower's policies very well.

Dwight was White.

The president has not raised your federal income taxes, your taxes were cut and are at a historic 50-year low.

Yet he was behind replacement refs.

The president has not placed any crushing regulation on small businesses, the president has given small business 18 tax credits.

He is going to have Joe The Plumber assassinated.Replacement Refs will take the fall.

The president has not raised the deficit, he has cut the deficit.

yay

The president has not increased federal spending, he has cut federal spending to the lowest levels since Reagan.

Do bank sell outs count?

The president has not passed one new program or law that is not deficit-neutral and fully self-funded - nothing new on the charge card.

What do you call the bait and switch?

The president has not expanded the size of government, the president has distinctly lowered the number of federal employees.

But raised them back by hiring Replacement Refs.

The president has not raised the national debt with impunity, he has implemented programs that lower the debt over time, and has been blocked by the Republican party from doing more to pay it off.

Then he should have tried it without impunity.

The president has not implemented any regulation to take away your guns or gun rights, in fact he has expanded your guns rights by passing law that allow you to now carry guns in national parks.

Ask Smokey Bear for his impressions.

The president has not overseen a massive government takeover of health care with death panels, the president has passed a historic law that expands your consumer protections for your health care, stops consumer abuses, and in fact gives private insurance companies more patients (this was a Republican-created law, after all, and this is why the insurance companies lobbied FOR this law to be passed)

Why are hospitals heavily investing in cemeteries?

This president signed law giving women the right to equal pay as men.

He passed Clinton in blow jobs received about two years ago.

Riot · #9 10-03-2012, 05:15 PM

" Pointmanscousin"

You've created a new imaginary friend! Now you have two!

pointman · #10 10-03-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

" Pointmanscousin"

You've created a new imaginary friend! Now you have two!

Whoever that is thinks they are being clever, but they have no connection to me and I am sure they won't be here long. I am done wasting my time with you as I have already proven what a troll you really are.

I will just watch and keep laughing as you declare the election over and put up countless nonsensical anti-Romney threads and countless fraudulent threads with phony pie-charts that you get from a liberal website where you and your buddies use misinformation to try to back up your lies. I will be back on election night to watch you be hauled off the mental ward when Romney wins the election.

#11 10-03-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Whoever that is thinks they are being clever, but they have no connection to me and I am sure they won't be here long. I am done wasting my time with you as I have already proven what a troll you really are.

I will just watch and keep laughing as you declare the election over and put up countless nonsensical anti-Romney threads and countless fraudulent threads with phony pie-charts that you get from a liberal website where you and your buddies use misinformation to try to back up your lies. I will be back on election night to watch you be hauled off the mental ward when Romney wins the election.

Nick,it's me.Oaklawn Bradley....remember? You didn't ask me here.I came here to help fight off your and TheBrianDespencer's two sisty uglies....I mean lovely sisters;DaLoss and Alabama Rock Hard..I recall how they both hated you both.

Of course, Riot is the board speed bag so I started with her.

Riot · #12 10-03-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

Nick,it's me.Oaklawn Bradley....remember? You didn't ask me here.I came here to help fight off your and TheBrianDespencer's two sisty uglies....I mean lovely sisters;DaLoss and Alabama Rock Hard..I recall how they both hated you both.

Of course, Riot is the board speed bag so I started with her.

So, joining Derby Trail just to troll other posters and disrupt is a reason for getting instantly kicked off.

Well done, rocket scientist

#13 10-03-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

So, joining Derby Trail just to troll other posters and disrupt is a reason for getting instantly kicked off.

Well done, rocket scientist

If this were so, you would be history here.

But you would repeat yourself on Up In Flames.

Obama is an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh who died of a fatal head wound.Why did not you die from yours?

my miss storm cat · #14 10-03-2012, 05:58 PM

**** anyone who thinks it's you.

Don't even waste your time.

#15 10-03-2012, 05:58 PM

Shut up.

my miss storm cat · #16 10-03-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pointmanscousin

Shut up.

Make me.

Anyhoo I was talking to Pointman and not you, Cuz.

Riot · #17 10-03-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Whoever that is thinks they are being clever, but they have no connection to me and I am sure they won't be here long. I am done wasting my time with you as I have already proven what a troll you really are.

I will just watch and keep laughing as you declare the election over and put up countless nonsensical anti-Romney threads and countless fraudulent threads with phony pie-charts that you get from a liberal website where you and your buddies use misinformation to try to back up your lies. I will be back on election night to watch you be hauled off the mental ward when Romney wins the election.

Sure, honey. Have some more Prozac