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Old 10-02-2012, 02:52 PM
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Reality?
Reality is that the GOP once again ran an awful ticket. Obama is terrible but they have done a great job of keeping the spotlight off of his record and on Romney's shortcomings. Plus he is a good guest on late night TV and the View which to far too many Americans actually means something.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:27 PM
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Reality?
Reality is that the GOP once again ran an awful ticket. Obama is terrible but they have done a great job of keeping the spotlight off of his record and on Romney's shortcomings. Plus he is a good guest on late night TV and the View which to far too many Americans actually means something.
he is awful. so is romney. had the republicans managed to find someone with both a pulse and some ability, obama wouldn't be a 2-termer. it's that simple.

like jon stewart said the other day, obama is 'the luckiest man on the face of the earth'.

it's a shame that once again, it's a question of 'who sucks less'. i'm tired of having dumb and dumber to choose from in these elections.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:59 PM
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which candidate from the available field in 2012 did you envision doing better than romney?

he's far from an ideal candidate but so long as the g.o.p. continues to view the problem as the candidate i suppose they'll continue with the angry white voter strategy that has netted them 1 popular vote win for president since 1992.

demographics is driving obama's win. despite a bad economy. absent a change in the republican message, how is 2016 going to be any different?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:06 PM
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which candidate from the available field in 2012 did you envision doing better than romney?

he's far from an ideal candidate but so long as the g.o.p. continues to view the problem as the candidate i suppose they'll continue with the angry white voter strategy that has netted them 1 popular vote win for president since 1992.

demographics is driving obama's win. despite a bad economy. absent a change in the republican message, how is 2016 going to be any different?
none of them. i said all along he'd get the nomination. he's an awful candidate, out of an awful group of candidates. and he's running against an awful incumbent.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:18 PM
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I completely disagree that Ron Paul was a "terrible candidate"


In fact, Ron Paul is head and shoulders more qualified, and understands the constitution better than the two fools we have on top of the ballots.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:45 PM
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I completely disagree that Ron Paul was a "terrible candidate"


In fact, Ron Paul is head and shoulders more qualified, and understands the constitution better than the two fools we have on top of the ballots.
and obama is a **** president. he continues to ruin our standing in the rest of the world. but im wondering how he can walk..with riot hanging from his balls..
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:48 PM
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and obama is a **** president. he continues to ruin our standing in the rest of the world. but im wondering how he can walk..with riot hanging from his balls..
When you are unable discuss the facts, always best to fall back on throwing personal insults against those that don't think like you. It's all the current Republican party, from Romney to Reince, seems to have.

Obama hasn't "ruined our standing in the rest of the world" in the least - that's such blatantly false nonsense. We are once again far more respected across the world, internationally, than we ever were during the Bush years.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:58 PM
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I completely disagree that Ron Paul was a "terrible candidate"


In fact, Ron Paul is head and shoulders more qualified, and understands the constitution better than the two fools we have on top of the ballots.
yeah, he wasn't terrible. he just had no shot in hell at getting the nomination for the republican party.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:02 PM
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yeah, he wasn't terrible. he just had no shot in hell at getting the nomination for the republican party.
He could have pulled at least 1/5 to 1/4 (if not more) of the votes at the convention this time around, and that's why the Republican party cheated and killed his candidacy.

I wish many of you guys were young enough to really remember the country and the world for the 15 years before W. Bush destroyed much of it. Some of you guys have no idea how much long-term, permanent destruction those 8 W years have wrought upon this country and the world. Nixon didn't destroy this country and world as much as Bush did - Nixon at least kept his disaster within the countries borders.
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I completely disagree that Ron Paul was a "terrible candidate"


In fact, Ron Paul is head and shoulders more qualified, and understands the constitution better than the two fools we have on top of the ballots.
Ron Paul would be a terrible candidate because he is absolutely unelectable. In 1912 he could get elected. In 2012 he would have no chance.
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Ron Paul would be a terrible candidate because he is absolutely unelectable. In 1912 he could get elected. In 2012 he would have no chance.
Why so you say this other then the obvious that he couldn t even get the republican nod vs Romney.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:30 PM
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Reality?
Reality is that the GOP once again ran an awful ticket. Obama is terrible but they have done a great job of keeping the spotlight off of his record and on Romney's shortcomings. Plus he is a good guest on late night TV and the View which to far too many Americans actually means something.
Yes, the GOP ran an awful ticket, and considering their bench, they seem destined to run an awful ticket for the forseeable future. Not good.

No, Obama isn't terrible in the least. That's just what the Republicans can't stand the most about him - he's accomplished far more in 4 years than Bush did in 8

And in spite of complete attempted sabotage and documented historic obstruction by the opposition party, who abdicated their responsibilities to the citizens of this country over the past 4 years by putting politics above our interests. THAT'S why the Republican Party is literally breathing it's last right now.

That outright lies are needed to try and damage the current presidents accomplishments and reputation just shows how bereft of ideas and quality the current Republican party is.

That the current Republican House has set historical precedence, by accomplishing less and working far less, than the famous "do nothing" congress of the past, yet Obama is being re-elected, simply shows how the American public isn't all that fooled by lies.
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Yes, the GOP ran an awful ticket, and considering their bench, they seem destined to run an awful ticket for the forseeable future. Not good.

No, Obama isn't terrible in the least. That's just what the Republicans can't stand the most about him - he's accomplished far more in 4 years than Bush did in 8

And in spite of complete attempted sabotage and documented historic obstruction by the opposition party, who abdicated their responsibilities to the citizens of this country over the past 4 years by putting politics above our interests. THAT'S why the Republican Party is literally breathing it's last right now.

That outright lies are needed to try and damage the current presidents accomplishments and reputation just shows how bereft of ideas and quality the current Republican party is.

That the current Republican House has set historical precedence, by accomplishing less and working far less, than the famous "do nothing" congress of the past, yet Obama is being re-elected, simply shows how the American public isn't all that fooled by lies.
The party that is supposedly close to death is in control of the house of representatives and may gain control of the Senate or at the very least will be a seat or 2 short.

Obama being elected and re elected has far more to do with the stiffs he ran against than any accomplishments he has achieved.
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