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Old 09-28-2012, 01:25 PM
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Plus the debt blame is pointless. Both parties share the burden and it is true that most of the debt is beyond Obama's control and the debt he did accumulate is a pittance compared to money wasted by former administrations.

Solyndra is a mere drop in the bucket.

One thing that he is handling extremely well is Iran and he seems to understand the timeline and our intelligence agencies aren't dropping the ball.

What's happening is Netanyahu needs conflict to remain in power. Obama sees it for what it is instead of being a Zionist lapdog.

Quite relieving, actually.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:28 PM
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Plus the debt blame is pointless. Both parties share the burden and it is true that most of the debt is beyond Obama's control and the debt he did accumulate is a pittance compared to money wasted by former administrations.

Solyndra is a mere drop in the bucket.

One thing that he is handling extremely well is Iran and he seems to understand the timeline and our intelligence agencies aren't dropping the ball.

What's happening is Netanyahu needs conflict to remain in power. Obama sees it for what it is instead of being a Zionist lapdog.

Quite relieving, actually.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:48 PM
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Plus the debt blame is pointless. Both parties share the burden and it is true that most of the debt is beyond Obama's control and the debt he did accumulate is a pittance compared to money wasted by former administrations.

Solyndra is a mere drop in the bucket.

One thing that he is handling extremely well is Iran and he seems to understand the timeline and our intelligence agencies aren't dropping the ball.
What's happening is Netanyahu needs conflict to remain in power. Obama sees it for what it is instead of being a Zionist lapdog.

Quite relieving, actually.
was reading an article earlier about the impact sanctions are having on the economy over there. further sanctions are coming next month. they need time to work, and i think are already have an effect.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:13 PM
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This warms my heart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy5s8GypSKI

sanctions will make the people of Iran revolt.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:48 PM
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factcheck, on obama and his 'deficit dodge'.

http://factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

some excerpts:

'President Obama is falsely claiming that his administration’s policies are responsible for “about 10 percent” of the deficits “over the last four years.” The cumulative deficit during that time is nearly $5.2 trillion. Obama signed two bills — the 2009 stimulus and the 2010 tax cut — that alone cost $1.6 trillion during that time, or nearly a third of the cumulative four-year deficit

Obama’s response leaves the false impression that President George W. Bush and the 2008 recession are responsible for a whopping 90 percent of the deficits in the last four years.

It’s true that Obama “inherited the biggest deficit in our history,” as he said on CBS. By the time Obama took office in January 2009, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office had already estimated that increased spending and decreased revenues would result in a $1.2 trillion deficit for fiscal year 2009, which began Oct. 1, 2008. In a detailed analysis of fiscal year 2009, we found that Obama was responsible for adding at most $203 billion to the deficit, which in the end topped $1.4 trillion that year.

But that was just the first of four years of trillion-plus deficits. The last three budgets fall squarely under Obama. And, during that time, the federal government ran up deficits of $1.3 trillion in 2010, $1.3 trillion in 2011, and about $1.2 trillion in the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30 — for a total of nearly $5.2 trillion in deficit spending.'

---------oh, and the 'unfunded bush war'??:

'The Obama administration was authorized to spend $160 billion in 2010 (Table 1-4, “Defense-war related”) and $159 billion in 2011 (Table 4, “Overseas contingency operations”) on the two wars — each more than the $140 billion that was authorized in 2009, which was Bush’s last budget. Obama significantly increased troop levels in Afghanistan in both years. CBO says budget authority for the Afghanistan war jumped from $38 billion in 2009 to $87 billion in 2010 and $98 billion in 2011. Obama requested $115 billion for both wars in 2012. The cost from 2010 to 2012 is more than $400 billion, excluding interest.



But Obama bears more responsibility than he is willing to accept, and misrepresents the Treasury analysis to minimize his responsibility.'
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and this nugget:


Josh Gordon, policy director of the Concord Coalition, a nonpartisan group that advocates for “responsible fiscal policy,” notes the president wants to exclude spending on continuing Bush-era tax and war policies. “The problem is those pieces of legislation had his signatures,” he added.

CBO and the nonpartisan Pew Fiscal Analysis Initiative each did their own postmortem analyses of what happened from 2002 to 2011. Without apportioning blame, both reports found the accumulation of legislation changes — tax cuts, war spending and stimulus measures under both presidents — was the “main driver,” as Pew put it.

-------obama skewing facts, by lumping bush policies he has continued into bushes area of responsibility! no, he keeps them going, they are his as well. but nice try.
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:43 PM
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Don't confuse the deficit with the debt
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