Mitt Romney calls half of America freeloaders

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Again I disagree with you. You are putting way too much trust in an incompetent and corrupt government to help people. If big government really helps people then why does every blighted and crime-ridden area in this country consistently vote Democrat and every single one of those areas, with the exception of the non-government phenomenon of gentrification, get poorer and more crime-ridden?

Like I said I don't think shrinking the pie and having an all powerful government decide who gets what is the answer.

It wasn't banks that got us into this mess, it was Democrats forcing banks to lend money for mortgages to people who never had a chance of repaying them. Who said banks shouldn't be regulated to some degree? However this current Dodd-Frank thing is a disaster, it leaves to-big-to-fail in there and it is designed to make the banks dependent on the politicians so that they can fatten their campaign coffers with cash.

Oh Really!!!???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68

Oh My.... http://www.hark.com/clips/wspcywglfn-down-goes-frazier

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by jms62

Oh Really!!!???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68

Oh My.... http://www.hark.com/clips/wspcywglfn-down-goes-frazier

You are right Bush was behind it at some point, but when he did call from some accountability for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the likes of Barney Frank ignored it.

Bill Clinton and his HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo are the ones who started the push. Barney Frank and organizations like ACORN are the ones who really forced it on the banks.

By the way, that also shows you what a phony liar Bill Clinton is when he goes on TV hawking for Obama by saying the Romney's policies are the ones that got us in the mess. Clinton started this ridiculous push for home ownership by people who couldn't afford it and he signed the repealing of Glass-Steagel. Just like Clinton, never let those pesky facts get in the way of his rhetoric.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

Just like Clinton, never let those pesky facts get in the way of his rhetoric.

Oy vey.

Pot meet kettle.

[Kasept]

Interesting Norman Mailer quote turned up on 'Word of the Day' digest today that is obviously germane to current debate.

To blame the poor for subsisting on welfare has no justice unless we are also willing to judge every rich member of society by how productive he or she is. Taken individual by individual, it is likely that there's more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.

Norman Mailer (1923-2007)

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Interesting Norman Mailer quote turned up on 'Word of the Day' digest today that is obviously germane to current debate.

To blame the poor for subsisting on welfare has no justice unless we are also willing to judge every rich member of society by how productive he or she is. Taken individual by individual, it is likely that there's more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.

Norman Mailer (1923-2007)

Steve you are spending a lot of time on the wrong side of the tracks lately... Things should get explosive down here in the next 2 months.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Steve you are spending a lot of time on the wrong side of the tracks lately... Things should get explosive down here in the next 2 months.

I am not so sure, I think other than a small number of true believers most of the populace is seeing these two for what the really are, the same.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am not so sure, I think other than a small number of true believers most of the populace is seeing these two for what the really are, the same.

I rather know how I am going to get screwed then to know I will get screwed but not how.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Interesting Norman Mailer quote turned up on 'Word of the Day' digest today that is obviously germane to current debate.

To blame the poor for subsisting on welfare has no justice unless we are also willing to judge every rich member of society by how productive he or she is. Taken individual by individual, it is likely that there's more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.

Norman Mailer (1923-2007)

How would the productivity of the rich be measured? By how many they employ in their own companies or maintain in the jobs they have with others? How much $ they put into the economy?
I have no doubt that the ultra wealthy are abusing the system but not "rich" people that have a household income of 250K, those are generally the people that are working the hardest and seeing the least benefits.