us health care report

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Riot

Exactly what it says.

Do you ever read a newspaper? Two-year-old news.



Ah - I forget you were a crazy conspiracy theorist with little to no grasp on reality.

Carry on

What do you they agree to? They agreed so more of them will be operating in the red? They didn't agree to anything, it was thrust upon them, just like it was on the the rest of us, by a bunch of elitist hypocrites who want to make rules for us to live by that they themselves are unwilling to follow. If Obamacare is so great then why are the Obamas, Bidens, Pelosis, Reid, and the rest of your idols keeping their superior health care coverage? Why did so many Unions and other Obama cronies request waivers?

Yeah Riot, it makes me a conspiracist because I am stating the obvious, that paying doctors 70% less to treat seniors than what they can get paid treating those on Medicaid and private insurance plus penalizing hospitals who treat more seniors isn't a design to kill seniors instead of really trying to treat them.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

What do you they agree to? They agreed so more of them will be operating in the red? They didn't agree to anything, it was thrust upon them, just like it was on the the rest of us, by a bunch of elitist hypocrites who want to make rules for us to live by that they themselves are unwilling to follow. If Obamacare is so great then why are the Obamas, Bidens, Pelosis, Reid, and the rest of your idols keeping their superior health care coverage? Why did so many Unions and other Obama cronies request waivers?

Yeah Riot, it makes me a conspiracist because I am stating the obvious, that paying doctors 70% less to treat seniors than what they can get paid treating those on Medicaid and private insurance plus penalizing hospitals who treat more seniors isn't a design to kill seniors instead of really trying to treat them.

Yes, the government has real death panels that are gonna kill seniors. "Obamacare is designed to kill the elderly ...", you say?

Uh ... sure, buddy. Good luck with the looney bin. You can get mental health help with ObamaCares. You might read up on how the 10 years of RomneyCare in Mass have worked. They are not killing their seniors via "death panels" in the least. Except, yeah, the government website are designed to lie to the suckers. But not you! You know for a fact aliens landed in Roswell, don't you?

Grasp on reality - you doan haz it. Can u haz paranoia? Yup

[geeker2]

Another large cap company says they are studying transferring those 50 years + out of the Company provided plan and on to an exchange.

It just keeps getting better and better.....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Another large cap company says they are studying transferring those 50 years + out of the Company provided plan and on to an exchange.

It just keeps getting better and better.....

Well, why not? Drives down costs for company and others in the group. Wonder what the price tag will end up being? They always lowball the price whenever a new plan is suggested. So we already know itll be higher then they said it would be when ohnocare was first voted on.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Well, why not? Drives down costs for company and others in the group. Wonder what the price tag will end up being? They always lowball the price whenever a new plan is suggested. So we already know itll be higher then they said it would be when ohnocare was first voted on.

It use to be a point of evaluation when you went for employment as to how good their health care benefits were. You could decide for yourself if the healthcare (typically great for large corporations) was worth the lower salary than maybe a smaller company that would give you a better take home.

Now we just have to make it all the same for everyone, otherwise we are being unfair.

What is next - we all have to drive the same car, wear uniforms...probably not- but it does make you stop and wonder where we are heading.

Maybe DEVO was right "Freedom of choice Is what you got - Freedom from choice Is what you want"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2;889299[B

]It use to be[/b] a point of evaluation when you went for employment as to how good their health care benefits were. You could decide for yourself if the healthcare (typically great for large corporations) was worth the lower salary than maybe a smaller company that would give you a better take home.

Now we just have to make it all the same for everyone, otherwise we are being unfair.

What is next - we all have to drive the same car, wear uniforms...probably not- but it does make you stop and wonder where we are heading.

Maybe DEVO was right "Freedom of choice Is what you got - Freedom from choice Is what you want"

yeah, a lot of things used to be a certain way.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Another large cap company says they are studying transferring those 50 years + out of the Company provided plan and on to an exchange.

It just keeps getting better and better.....

Uh .. that's a good thing. Is that really too hard to understand? It saves your company lots of money for them to purchase private insurance on the exchange for those more expensive older employees. Then it lowers the cost of the group insurance remaining for the rest of the employees.

I repeat - this is an advantage for companies, it gives employees better insurance at less cost to the company. The company is still buying their insurance. The employee will probably have the same plan with a different name from the same provider.

The govrnment does not provide any insurance on the exchanges. Private companies do.

It won't change their plan. They will get more healthcare, like everyone else. The only thing an exchange is, is a competitive private marketplace for insurance to be purchased by companies and individuals. Think of it as a giant group lowering costs Pure capitalism, baby.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, the government has real death panels that are gonna kill seniors. "Obamacare is designed to kill the elderly ...", you say?

Uh ... sure, buddy. Good luck with the looney bin. You can get mental health help with ObamaCares. You might read up on how the 10 years of RomneyCare in Mass have worked. They are not killing their seniors via "death panels" in the least. Except, yeah, the government website are designed to lie to the suckers. But not you! You know for a fact aliens landed in Roswell, don't you?

Grasp on reality - you doan haz it. Can u haz paranoia? Yup

Lets recap, Obama said the following:

Obamacare will bend the cost curve down

If you like your insurance and your doctors, you can keep them

Illegal aliens are not covered under Obamacare

Guess what Riot, those were all LIES so why would anyone believe what is on their website. Obama is the worst kind of liar as he lies about policy because he knows that it will be unpopular with masses in this country. He is an elitist, condescending fool who wants to make rules for us to live that he himself is unwilling to follow while he lies to us about those rules.

You simply refuse to answer my simple question, if Obamacare is so great then why are the Obamas, Bidens, Pelosi, Reids, and rest of your elitist, hypocrite idols keeping their superior health care paid for by us of course?

If you have the guts to answer it, also try answering this one, if Obamacare is so great then why did Obama have to threaten and bribe his OWN PARTY to get it passed? Is a President who uses bribes, kickbacks, and lies to their own party to pass legislation that will greatly affect people's health something that you condone?

[Riot]

Guess what Riot, those were all LIES

Only in your world of pure Obama Derangement Syndrom delusion.

The rest of us out here in the real world will enjoy the positive benefits.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Riot

Only in your world of pure Obama Derangement Syndrom delusion.

The rest of us out here in the real world will enjoy the positive benefits.

No matter how you try and spin it Riot, those were outright lies. I know that you pray to an Obama statue every night and simply cannot fathom that Obama is a filthy liar. He appeals to people like you who just soak up his lies without ever doing independant research. The Soviet Union had a term for braindead liberals like you, "useful idiot".

[geeker2]

Good news is that when Mitt is elected he will dismantle Obamacare!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Good news is that when Mitt is elected he will dismantle Obamacare!

Good news indeed since none of us will have jobs to pay for healthcare in a few years. Just CEO's and CFO's managing virtual companies located in the far flung regions of the world where slavery is government sponsored.. Yay....