Steve Byk quote of the day

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if barry irwin wanted to prove a point, the best way to do it is to take his horses off it, and show it's not needed. than it's not his opinion at all. it would show he's serious, and that he's right. right now, it just shows he uses something that he says he shouldn't.

You completely are missing the point. I don't think many people are saying Lasix doesn't do what it purports to do. People just also believe it does other things to boot.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You completely are missing the point. I don't think many people are saying Lasix doesn't do what it purports to do. People just also believe it does other things to boot.

no, i'm not missing the point at all. i know that some people think it does more than prevent bleeding, that some believe it also enhances performance. and i can find you just as many others who don't.
my point is that if one feels strongly about getting rid of something, they don't keep using it. that would be akin to the marlboro man saying don't smoke while puffing on a marlboro red.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, i'm not missing the point at all. i know that some people think it does more than prevent bleeding, that some believe it also enhances performance. and i can find you just as many others who don't.
my point is that if one feels strongly about getting rid of something, they don't keep using it. that would be akin to the marlboro man saying don't smoke while puffing on a marlboro red.

I'm curious, when is the last time a 3 or older horse won a G1 stake in the US without Lasix?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm curious, when is the last time a 3 or older horse won a G1 stake in the US without Lasix?

i don't know, when? it's actually not something i've ever paid attention to, so i have no idea. perhaps invasor, who doug mentioned above?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know, when? it's actually not something i've ever paid attention to, so i have no idea. perhaps invasor, who doug mentioned above?

Not in the US he didn't. I don't know, but I think the fact it will take quite a bit of research says a lot.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm curious, when is the last time a 3 or older horse won a G1 stake in the US without Lasix?

I think the better question is who was the last US-trained G1 winner in the US without Lasix. Have to think the overall question would be answered by a Euro shipping in...Shirocco, someone like that?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I think the better question is who was the last US-trained G1 winner in the US without Lasix. Have to think the overall question would be answered by a Euro shipping in...Shirocco, someone like that?

Yes, I'm sure you are right. And now, for a shameless redboard, I bet Shirocco in the BC.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Yes, I'm sure you are right. And now, for a shameless redboard, I bet Shirocco in the BC.

I think Andre Fabre emptied his bank account too...

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I think the better question is who was the last US-trained G1 winner in the US without Lasix. Have to think the overall question would be answered by a Euro shipping in...Shirocco, someone like that?

What is the typical average monthly vet bill of a horse in one of the large stables overseas?

[Alabama Stakes]

How come hosses rarely win back if they add lasix after a win ?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

How come hosses rarely win back if they add lasix after a win ?

What exactly is rarely? And what is a hoss?