Healthcare reform - subsidy eligibility calculator

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Congratulations, you are among the 251 million Americans that are unaided by the ACA!! Expect to show your thanks by paying a LOT more.

FTFY

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

FTFY

but, but, but the subsidies...

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

but, but, but the subsidies...

lol
yeah, i expect our group coverage to go up...and before long, they'll have to raise taxes to pay for the subsidies. you know, the ones most of us don't qualify for.
and if you get a subsidy to buy insurance, you will also have a lower stop loss, and lower deductibles. the rest of us will pay for that too. oh yes, yes we will.
you see, when a pols lips move, he's lying. and to know that big pharma was in on all the deal making...that's scary. no doubt health insurers were as well.
yeah, it's for our own good. bend over and take it.
and if you complain, well you're just a hater. yeah, it's got nothing to do with having a head that looks at numbers, and math, equations and says no way this crap will work. it's all based purely on emotion.

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just saw this, no doubt the first of many to announce they won't buy in:

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...xpand-medicaid

Gov. Scott says Florida will not comply with health care law or expand Medicaid

By Gary Fineout, NBCMiami.com

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday. Wright stressed that the governor would work to make sure the law is repealed.

Scott told Fox News the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it's unclear how he arrived at that figure.

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i found it interesting in the ruling the other day where roberts essentially pulled the rug out from under ppuca, by saying current funding for current medicaid would not be allowed to be cut if a state opted out of obamacare.
in other words, he's now said nullification is allowed. john c calhoun would have a party if he knew.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i found it interesting in the ruling the other day where roberts essentially pulled the rug out from under ppuca, by saying current funding for current medicaid would not be allowed to be cut if a state opted out of obamacare.
in other words, he's now said nullification is allowed. john c calhoun would have a party if he knew.

The bottom ten states in the country, the absolute worse in health care, are all those Red State governors whining how they will refuse to cooperate with the law because they are in a snit.

They're gonna have a good time with re-election, after they tell their citizens, they are personally refusing federally-funded health care for them (the Medicaid expansion) that won't cost the state or the recipient a dime

The govs can also refuse to set up state exchanges, but that just mean the feds come in and do it for them. That means they lose their state-control, and state-specific type of exchange.

Ceding federal control is a pretty funny choice for these "state's rights" ultra-conservative, tea-partier types to take.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw this, no doubt the first of many to announce they won't buy in:

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...xpand-medicaid

Gov. Scott says Florida will not comply with health care law or expand Medicaid

By Gary Fineout, NBCMiami.com

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday. Wright stressed that the governor would work to make sure the law is repealed.

Scott told Fox News the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it's unclear how he arrived at that figure.

I'm shocked!...a politician lied...they all should be forced to take this lie detector test..


http://www.evesmag.com/carsonpolitician.htm

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Originally Posted by bigrun

I'm shocked!...a politician lied...they all should be forced to take this lie detector test..


http://www.evesmag.com/carsonpolitician.htm

And then we would need all new politicians.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

And then we would need all new politicians.

And that is bad why?....I'd vote for you and Riot, what could go wrong there