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Old 07-02-2012, 04:59 PM
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well, at least you will be comforted in knowing you make enough to subsidize others, but not yourself. well, no more than you already do!
What I dont get is, I AM the middle class, you know the one's who pay their taxes and pave the roads. Im all for helping the poor and people truly in need the one's that cant help themselves but dont we already have programs in place for that. Ah dunno just seems like alot of build up to nothing, for me anyway. I guess we will see what happens, I just have a hard time believing the insurance companies are going to take it up the cornholio.
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What I dont get is, I AM the middle class, you know the one's who pay their taxes and pave the roads. Im all for helping the poor and people truly in need the one's that cant help themselves but dont we already have programs in place for that. Ah dunno just seems like alot of build up to nothing, for me anyway. I guess we will see what happens, I just have a hard time believing the insurance companies are going to take it up the cornholio.
Congratulations, you are among the 251 million Americans that are unaided by the ACA!! Expect to show your thanks by paying a bit more.
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Congratulations, you are among the 251 million Americans that are unaided by the ACA!! Expect to show your thanks by paying a LOT more.
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but, but, but the subsidies...
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:45 PM
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but, but, but the subsidies...
lol
yeah, i expect our group coverage to go up...and before long, they'll have to raise taxes to pay for the subsidies. you know, the ones most of us don't qualify for.
and if you get a subsidy to buy insurance, you will also have a lower stop loss, and lower deductibles. the rest of us will pay for that too. oh yes, yes we will.
you see, when a pols lips move, he's lying. and to know that big pharma was in on all the deal making...that's scary. no doubt health insurers were as well.
yeah, it's for our own good. bend over and take it.
and if you complain, well you're just a hater. yeah, it's got nothing to do with having a head that looks at numbers, and math, equations and says no way this crap will work. it's all based purely on emotion.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:51 PM
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just saw this, no doubt the first of many to announce they won't buy in:

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...xpand-medicaid

Gov. Scott says Florida will not comply with health care law or expand Medicaid

By Gary Fineout, NBCMiami.com

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday. Wright stressed that the governor would work to make sure the law is repealed.

Scott told Fox News the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it's unclear how he arrived at that figure.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:54 PM
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i found it interesting in the ruling the other day where roberts essentially pulled the rug out from under ppuca, by saying current funding for current medicaid would not be allowed to be cut if a state opted out of obamacare.
in other words, he's now said nullification is allowed. john c calhoun would have a party if he knew.
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just saw this, no doubt the first of many to announce they won't buy in:

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...xpand-medicaid

Gov. Scott says Florida will not comply with health care law or expand Medicaid

By Gary Fineout, NBCMiami.com

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday. Wright stressed that the governor would work to make sure the law is repealed.

Scott told Fox News the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it's unclear how he arrived at that figure.


I'm shocked!...a politician lied...they all should be forced to take this lie detector test..


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What I dont get is, I AM the middle class, you know the one's who pay their taxes and pave the roads. Im all for helping the poor and people truly in need the one's that cant help themselves but dont we already have programs in place for that. Ah dunno just seems like alot of build up to nothing, for me anyway. I guess we will see what happens, I just have a hard time believing the insurance companies are going to take it up the cornholio.
yeah...but you're in the same pickle i'm in. i don't get why they did so much of this, as i've said in the past-states already have programs for people who have pre-existing conditions to get insurance.
they should have just done single payer, i'll say that til i die i guess. this new system will bankrupt the federal govt, which is already on a bad path with spending and the budget, the debt and deficit. and because the feds, unlike everyone else, don't have to include pension funding in their 'budgets' the real deficit is much, much higher than what they officially state. amazing.
but they ignore what economists and the cbl have been recommending, and focus on health care instead-and then produce a cobbled together mish mash that keeps health companies, the ultimate evil-yet something everyone should join?-medicare (look at the savings!) medicaid (ignore the funding, it is going to be higher than the medicare savings!) and adds subsidies for people to buy insurance(if they had single payer, there would be no insurance companies-what would that save???)...which we all know where that funding will come from for the subsidies. for the huge expansion of medicaid(if states sign up for it). but magically, this program won't cost any more than what we have now.
right. sure. in what world do you expand spending, but it costs no more?
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