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Old 06-04-2012, 04:42 PM
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Load up on Optimizer? That is a ballsy call. I respect that.
It was tongue-in-cheek really, but considering recent winners like D'Tara, Commendable, Jazil and Sarava, I wouldn't be quick to mock those who take a flyer on him.

Actually, now that I think about it, Commendable was by Gone West, so Union Rags just moved up on the pedigree chart.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:43 PM
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It was tongue-in-cheek really, but considering recent winners like D'Tara, Commendable, Jazil and Sarava, I wouldn't be quick to mock those who take a flyer on him.

Actually, now that I think about it, Commendable was by Gone West, so Union Rags just moved up on the pedigree chart.
Problem is he comes from too far back. Belmont Stakes favors stalkers
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:33 PM
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Dicky Downey's Winning Belmont patterns since 1978.

http://www.thedowneyprofile.com/More...ce-1978.415830
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:12 PM
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People pick horses after saying they had traffic trouble in their last outing, but what appears to be bad racing luck is sometimes a case of just them making their own trouble. Bad breaks aren't always a fluke, for instance. Sometimes when horses get a good trip, it's because they were good enough to make their own luck or overcome what would've been a problem for another horse. The ability to go through a hole vs get squeezed for example. Afleet Alex overcame bad luck through his agility and athleticism.

Zenyatta should've had problems with her size and running style when trying to overcome pace and traffic, but she (almost) always worked it out because she was nimble enough. I like Union Rags, but one reason I didn't pick him in the Derby was a nagging fear that he'd get himself in trouble. Obviously in a 20 horse field the opportunity to then get out of trouble is very unlikely. Presumably a 1 1/2 race would give more time to fix things, assuming he gets the distance, but I still want I'll Have Another to get it, and if he can't it doesn't look like it'll be from lack of ability, stamina, or fitness on his part.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:29 AM
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I really am disapointed with myself. I'm totally buying into Union Rags. The power house work article is making me more comfortable. If he's not on or near lead then ill really be stunned.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:10 AM
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I really am disapointed with myself.
There may be hope for you yet.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:32 AM
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Not likely.
I have lots of issues.
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