Less choice coming for New York City

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Ridiculous that New York is doing this or because Joey is making this a Liberal v Conservative issue?

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Most conservatives seem to stick to much more destructive issues, like trying to pass laws telling other people if they can or cannot use birth control, what doctors and patients must discuss, and controlling womens vaginas and uteruses.

Oh, yeah - and trying to tell people who their sexual partners can and cannot be, and what sex acts are legal and not. Oh: and what religion one can practice freely in this country.

And the "welfare queen" catch phrase invented out of blue sky by Ronald Reagan was proven false when he said it, and 1990's welfare reform eliminated the possibility.

Please - never, ever try to make the proven false, "liberals use government to control you" argument, when we have 60 years of conservatives doing it or trying to do much, much worse: aggressively trying to take away other American's personal liberty and freedom.

There is one party whose purpose, if they are elected this fall, is to immediately privatize for profit every penny they can ooze out of what's left (education, health care, retirement), give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest, and end any remaining middle class in this country by stealing every last penny they can.

Wages (earning power) for those earning less than $250,000 a year haven't changed in my lifetime. The ruling class have been very successful, and are going in for the kill to make this country a complete plutocracy.

They use hot button social issues to get your vote and enable their doing that, while pointing at those who oppose them and scream they are stealing your tax dollars to distract you - while they have a hand in your pocket privatizing and taking every last thing this country does for it's citizens. You and your class have gotten nothing from them over the past 60 years - you've only lost wages, and retirement income, and social safety nets. And you're insistent upon handing over your last freedoms and dimes to them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?
Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

conservatives also inject themselves into health and privacy, but nice try. maybe not soda, maybe it's birth control.

[brianwspencer]

Interesting that when it comes to soda, all of the sudden "choice" is something that matters to you.

Cool.

[dellinger63]

Conservatives as a whole are not against birth control or even abortion for that matter. They just don't want to be forced to pay for it.

Conservatives like me have no problem with a fat slob supersizing everything sugar and bad. We do have a problem when others are forced to pay for it or its effects. Like when these slobs can't afford health insurance because of heart disease and diabetes caused by poor diet choices and are now in need of others pitching in for their premiums in the name of Obamacare!

Simple should you feel you may need BC pills or an abortion, make the choice to make sure the policy you signed up for covers such.

Choice should not be supplemented

[bigrun]

[Riot]

Only thing wrong with that cartoon is that the kid should be as fat as the cops, and be a couch-sitting insulin-dependent diabetic who is driven everywhere by their parents, with some media screen in front of his face 14-hours-a-day

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Conservatives as a whole are not against birth control or even abortion for that matter. They just don't want to be forced to pay for it.
Conservatives like me have no problem with a fat slob supersizing everything sugar and bad. We do have a problem when others are forced to pay for it or its effects. Like when these slobs can't afford health insurance because of heart disease and diabetes caused by poor diet choices and are now in need of others pitching in for their premiums in the name of Obamacare!

Simple should you feel you may need BC pills or an abortion, make the choice to make sure the policy you signed up for covers such.

Choice should not be supplemented

bullshit

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Interesting that when it comes to soda, all of the sudden "choice" is something that matters to you.

Cool.

Sure - because in this case it's not a euphemism for killing somebody. I'm all for the choice of choosing not to get somebody pregnant since you both are not ready for it.

The "choice" to kill at a later date is a canard. It never existed except as a footnote to a poorly litigated Supreme Court case, and only survives since the one thing there is a shortage of in Washington D.C. is balls.

Sodas are more important than babies and gay people. I totally got your point Joey. You are teh worst man ever!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Interesting that when it comes to soda, all of the sudden "choice" is something that matters to you.

Cool.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

So when the word "choice" actually means choice instead of murder, I shouldn't use it? Riiiight....

New York City - where you can't get a 20 oz soda but you can abort as many babies as you like. What a great town!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

So when the word "choice" actually means choice instead of murder, I shouldn't use it? Riiiight....

New York City - where you can't get a 20 oz soda but you can abort as many babies as you like. What a great town!

You really need to read up on abortion law.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

You really need to read up on abortion law.

Oh so there is a limit now on how many abortions? Per month, per year, per lifetime - what's the number?

It's probably the 3 strike rule. 3 fetuses and your uterus is out.

Soda is awful but this isn't about people's safety and health. It's about money.

[Danzig]

joey, i don't care what you call it.
but i do find it ironic that you and others are sooo anti-government intervention, until you're for it.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

joey, i don't care what you call it.
but i do find it ironic that you and others are sooo anti-government intervention, until you're for it.

Where did I say I was for government intervention?

I am against the government intervention that continues to keep the massacre of babies in utero legal.

Had the Supreme Court not acted in 1973, the deadlock in the case would have prevented the killing of that human being, and of course the erroneous precedent that one parent alone can order the execution of her would-be child would never have been established.

The fathers aren't off the hook either. It's wrong to set up that situation and then be nowhere to be found. Everybody should learn a little self control instead of acting mentally like children, who then don't want children.

Find a dictionary printed prior to 1973 and you may find a word : aborticide.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

OK - good point - but equally technical is the fact that the law seeks to make it less convenient to consume the same amount.

Maybe next Bloomberg should outlaw the 16 oz pint of beer and the 12 oz bottle, preferring instead that going to the bar for a beer with the guys means ordering 12 one ounce shot glasses of beer...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Maybe next Bloomberg should outlaw the 16 oz pint of beer and the 12 oz bottle, preferring instead that going to the bar for a beer with the guys means ordering 12 one ounce shot glasses of beer...

The size of beer bottles, the volume of alcohol that can be served in "one serving" in bars, etc. is very heavily controlled in some jurisdictions.