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Old 05-28-2012, 01:02 PM
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Sid Gustafson, D.V.M., is a novelist and equine veterinarian specializing in thoroughbred sports medicine and equine behavior. He currently practices regulatory veterinary medicine, representing the safety and welfare of thoroughbred racehorses.


The bold type in the guy's resume should tell you all you need to know. This guy is as far off the mark and delusional as Glenn Thompson, another novelist on the subject, is.
Again, what did he say that was inaccurate?
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:25 PM
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Again, what did he say that was inaccurate?
The novelist hasn't stated a single fact. All he has done is state his opinion to try and support his cleanhorseracing.org/no lasix agenda. For you to accept any of this as gospel speaks volumes.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:29 PM
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The novelist hasn't stated a single fact. All he has done is state his opinion to try and support his cleanhorseracing.org/no lasix agenda. For you to accept any of this as gospel speaks volumes.
This sounds like a fact to me:

"The more Lasix, and the closer it is administered to the race, the more intense the alkalinization effect of Lasix, according to the science presented at the K.H.R.C. race-day medication hearing. Lasix alkalinizes horses, creating a competitive metabolic advantage similar to milkshaking, rendering the drug Lasix a clear and present doping agent. "

By all means, tell me what is wrong with that statement.

"Drug Them All"...I'm really liking that. I see a real boon to the sport if this takes off.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:37 PM
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This sounds like a fact to me:

"The more Lasix, and the closer it is administered to the race, the more intense the alkalinization effect of Lasix, according to the science presented at the K.H.R.C. race-day medication hearing. Lasix alkalinizes horses, creating a competitive metabolic advantage similar to milkshaking, rendering the drug Lasix a clear and present doping agent. "

By all means, tell me what is wrong with that statement.

"Drug Them All"...I'm really liking that. I see a real boon to the sport if this takes off.
So if every horse is in effect milkshakes then why milkshake?
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:41 PM
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So if every horse is in effect milkshakes then why milkshake?
How would I know why cheaters cheat? It isn't like we are dealing with a bunch of Einsteins now is it? Are you trying to tell me all these trainers know all the science of milkshakes and Lasix? Give me a break already.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:56 PM
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How would I know why cheaters cheat? It isn't like we are dealing with a bunch of Einsteins now is it? Are you trying to tell me all these trainers know all the science of milkshakes and Lasix? Give me a break already.

I don't think you need to have a masters degree in psychology to figure out why cheaters cheat?

And this guy is trying to tell you that every horse getting lasix is in effect milkshaked. Which of course is ludicrous.

And lets not act naive like trainers are milkshaking their own horses or are producing the materials used for the pseudo-shakes...
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:11 PM
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Meh. I'm leaning towards a ban on Lasix. It's not like these trainers nowadays are deserving of having things their way. They don't run their horses enough to have a seat at the table any longer. They need to be bullied into either quitting or running their horses more.

This nonsense of banning lasix ruining the game is just that.

But realistically I'm more concerned with getting American bettors involved with Australian, Japanese, and Hong Kong racing. Or at the very least giving those of us who bet those races access to the local pools.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:40 PM
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This sounds like a fact to me:

"The more Lasix, and the closer it is administered to the race, the more intense the alkalinization effect of Lasix, according to the science presented at the K.H.R.C. race-day medication hearing. Lasix alkalinizes horses, creating a competitive metabolic advantage similar to milkshaking, rendering the drug Lasix a clear and present doping agent. "

By all means, tell me what is wrong with that statement.

"Drug Them All"...I'm really liking that. I see a real boon to the sport if this takes off.
So if every horse is in effect milkshakes then why milkshake? It is ridiculous to believe this nonsense. It is like saying that going 45.3 to the half is the same in dirt races and turf races because the pacesetters both lost.
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