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![]() the first winner, aristides, was entered to be a rabbit for his stablemate chesapeake. believe chesapeake was the favorite coming in. aristides got left alone on the lead and was still in front at the top of the stretch. supposedly his jock was looking around to see where ches. was, and the owner was yelling just keep going or something to that effect.
and i think they used to have the derby on a wednesday. the founder of churchill was meriwether clark jr, he was Clark's grandson (of the lewis and clark expedition). that ought to answer anyone's potential question of who is the clark handicap named for?
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![]() Is the founder related to PBF?
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![]() Man O' War did not run in the Derby because his owner felt it was a bush league track. In fact Kentucky's favorite son never ran in the state.
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![]() The whole Apollo thing would be kind of a red flag if it weren't for the fact that pretty much every Derby streak has been broken in recent years.
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He spoke of Churchill Downs like it was Santa Anita. |
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![]() Aside from the Sir Barton race, Man o' War only stepped foot outside of the state of New York to race twice, and both times were in Maryland.
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![]() Quote:
Other than the Preakness -- which Man O' War won by 1.5 lengths -- he faced very minimal competition. 2nd start at age 3: Two rivals 3rd start at age 3: match race 4th start at age 3: match race 5th start at age 3: match race 6th start at age 3: Two rivals 7th start at age 3: Two rivals 8th start at age 3: match race 9th start at age 3: match race 10th start at age 3: 3 rivals 11th start at age 3: Match race He faced just one older horse his entire career -- Sir Barton -- who was widely rumored to be injured and off form. Racing was in desperately bad shape at the time because of anti-gambling laws ...and Man O' War fiested on one of the smallest foal crops in racing history. He did have great early speed -- and that's a tremendous asset when you're racing in glorified walkovers or 3 horse fields. |
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![]() The last 10 years have turned just about everything upside down, with the 5 weeks rest, 2 prep schedule, geldings, et al, but for what it's worth, here are two long standing trends still standing that I tried to take apart.
The "no races at 2". I think the "no race at 2" thing is overstated, but I do agree u need some foundation and experience. So who are the ones who tried it in our time: Summer Bird- won Belmont/Travers Dunkirk- multi million dollar yearling, got hurt Greely Galaxy 11th Curlin became 2 time HOY Atswhatimtalkinbout 4th Wheelaway 5th Indian Charlie, never raced again Pulpit 4th, hurt, retired Bodemeister ?? Say what you want, but there were some major talents here and the closest to winning was Curlin, who failed in the Derby but was good enough to win the Preakness and be HOY. Now look at those undefeated going in: Undefeated going in: Big Brown 3-0 win Curlin 3-0 3rd Barbaro 5-0 win Showing Up 3-0 6th Smarty Jones 6-0 win Trippi 4-0 (sprinter) Indian Charlie 4-0 3rd Gemolotist 5-0 ???? There were a handful of others going back to Mr. Frisky, but as a group, these have some pretty impressive results.
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![]() Which was considered a bush league track as well. If it wasn't the east coast, it was a bunch of cowboys.
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Here's a Daily Racing Form column from the 1920's. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() I'm not saying it was true, but that it was a strong east coast point of view.
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