Kentucky's ongoing attempt to end racing in state proceeds..

[Bill K]

I listened to Dale Roman's eloquent defense of race day use of Lasix. I also heard Shug question why an entire 2 year old race at Keeland the other day all horses were administered Lasix and adjunct. Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts? It doesn't make sense. What has the lifting of the race day drug ban done for NY racing? We raced for over 100 years with no drugs now in NY after 15 years of usage...we can't live without it. As far as I can see only the casino has improved racing in NY not drugs.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Bill K

I listened to Dale Roman's eloquent defense of race day use of Lasix. I also heard Shug question why an entire 2 year old race at Keeland the other day all horses were administered Lasix and adjunct. Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts? It doesn't make sense. What has the lifting of the race day drug ban done for NY racing? We raced for over 100 years with no drugs now in NY after 15 years of usage...we can't live without it. As far as I can see only the casino has improved racing in NY not drugs.

It's not a breed specific problem, it's a horse specific problem. You'll see the use of Flair strips in other equestrian events.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It's not a breed specific problem, it's a horse specific problem. You'll see the use of Flair strips in other equestrian events.

apparently what i posted about this going on for centuries went unnoticed the other day by some.

i guess some have just decided no matter what is said, or written, lasix is bad, mmmmkay.

[RolloTomasi]

Can racehorses bleed at other times besides workouts and races (eg., during routine gallops)? If so, is it safe or appropriate to give those horses lasix more frequently?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Bill K

Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts?

I doubt it, because the incidence of bleeding overtly through the nose hasn't changed over the years, either here before lasix or in other jurisdictions without lasix.

I think it's just our diagnostic methods and knowledge have vastly improved. Now we see how much EIPH there actually is in horses.

We used to diagnose only via seeing nosebleeds. About 30 years ago we started using regular bronchoscopy stallside to look down in the trachea. Now we can do well-funded scientific research on high-speed treadmills and alveolar lavage of the lungs themselves.