Kentucky's ongoing attempt to end racing in state proceeds..

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I love how these guys like Seth Hancock show up for a meeting like this and stump for "hay, oats and water" (the misnomer that it is). Last time I checked, he was using Pletcher as his trainer. So let me see, he's opposed to giving a horse a $20 Lasix shot on race day, but he has no problem having his horses with a trainer whose horses average four figure vet bills on a monthly basis. Can you say hypocrite?

In all fairness, the vast majority of his horses are with Al Stall.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

In all fairness, the vast majority of his horses are with Al Stall.

True, but Claiborne has had, and currently does have, horses with Pletcher.

The list of TOBA/Jockey Club/Breeders Cup members that have horses with guys like Pletcher and Asmussen, whose monthly vet bills dwarf those of smaller stables, is pretty long.

[Calzone Lord]

When Turfway Park decided to install a synthetic surface I thought it was a great idea for many reasons...and I liked the idea of a third racing surface because it would help bettors who weren't mindless find edge in some situations.

When I started watching Turfway's poly races ... I thought it would be a travesty if top class horse racing is ever conducted on a surface like that.

You don't have to go back very far to find a time when lasix wasn't allowed on a major circuit...New York in the early-to-mid 90's.

The issue of the day in horse racing always seems to be a completely worthless issue and much ado about nothing. I don't care either way about lasix. It's basically vets and horse trainers VS dopey handwringers and do-gooders from within the industry.

[Cannon Shell]

The idea that we should get rid of lasix for PR is a laughably amatuerish move. The idea that there will be some big reaction to us removing the letter L in the program/pp's is based on delusional reasoning partly because many of the backers of the anti-medication movement have no understanding of how the "drug problem" in our game is formulated by horseplayers. I haven't met or heard of anyone in more than 20 years complaining about lasix as an issue (of course until recently when our own people stained the sport by taking their opinions based on bs public) but go to any racetrack in America and you will hear all kinds of theories (right or wrong) after a 47% trainer wins a race (or runs poorly at 2-5) or there is some dramatic form reversal. Asking people if they are for or against drugs in racing in a internet poll with no context and trumpeting those results is asinine but this is the "evidence" that they use. Saying that "we are known as a chemical sport so lets get rid of lasix" is insane not only because it will cause all kinds of unintended consequences but because it isnt attacking the real drug issue or any of the other problems of the sport. When breeders cry about lasix or other legal medications "affect" on the breed yet have no trouble with the manipulation of a foals legs (ie their god given genetic makeup) how can you take them seriously? In order to "fix the game" you must first understand what the hell is going on and it is painfully obvious that so many of the people in charge simply don't. This is the only billion dollar business in existence that relies on the opinions of mostly uneducated on the topic people to make major business decisions without doing an economic impact study on the likely effects of the potential decisions.

[NTamm1215]

If there was any doubt which was the right way to view the scenario, just view Jerry Bossert's last tweet:

Jerry Bossert ‏ (@holybull71) @ShuveeIL @raypaulick this sport needs the Fed to step in

[Calzone Lord]

Is Bossert the guy who freaked out because they wouldn't show the Bengals in the press box?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Is Bossert the guy who freaked out because they wouldn't show the Bengals in the press box?

Could have been, I just know he's a serial NYRA hater whose opinion stinks.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

If there was any doubt which was the right way to view the scenario, just view Jerry Bossert's last tweet:

Jerry Bossert ‏ (@holybull71) @ShuveeIL @raypaulick this sport needs the Fed to step in

that's the last thing this sport needs!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

When breeders cry about lasix or other legal medications "affect" on the breed yet have no trouble with the manipulation of a foals legs (ie their god given genetic makeup) how can you take them seriously?

[Danzig]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ky-pane...4495--rah.html


according to this article, the ban attempt has failed.

[Danzig]

i remember when ny was lasix-free. kept some nice horses from running there.

ky is probably hoping to be the industry leader, and see other groups follow their lead. they'll probably be very lonely on their pedestal, which they'll ditch in a hurry when their cunning plan falls apart. ky has bigger issues, they obviously don't have their priorities in order.

on the other hand...is this a move that began behind the scenes-are they hoping for some sort of state help with this vote???