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Old 03-22-2012, 06:09 PM
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Of course it's one's "right" to be racist in the USA. Fully agree. The question was, do you think we should tolerate racism in the US?

Socially tolerating racism is a sure way to propogate it, IMO, as it's learned behaviour.

If one is with someone, and they say, "Hey, look at that ...... " (fill in any obviously hateful racial expletive) one has a choice on how to react.
It is difficult to not tolerate it to a degree because of the freedom as individuals that we have. The thing is that the country has made tremendous strides in this area yet we are often browbeaten into thinking that racism is still running rampant. As long as you have people with differences socially, economically, historically, culturally, etc you are going to have some biases and racism that will live on regardless.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:23 PM
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And today's unbelievably moronic comment winner is Geraldo Rivera, who said today on Fox News:

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Geraldo Rivera said Friday he would “bet money” that Trayvon Martin wouldn’t have been fatally shot if the teenager hadn’t been wearing a hoodie, and the Fox News host’s comments immediately drew a fierce response, with one critic branding him a “moron” on Twitter.

“I am urging the parents of black and Latino youngsters particularly to not let their children go out wearing hoodies,” Rivera said on “Fox & Friends.” “I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”

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Yeah. And men who wear shorts get raped? So don't wear shorts?

There is no facepalm large enough to describe this.

Hint, Geraldo: Treyvon was killed by a racist toting a gun and pursing a black man. His hoodie had nothing to do with it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:47 PM
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Remember Geraldo the patriot in the Gulf War?

Pentagon seeks Geraldo Rivera's removal.

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The Pentagon said Tuesday it is asking Fox News Channel to remove Geraldo Rivera from a posting with U.S. troops in Iraq where he was accused of disclosing unauthorized information."We have asked that he be removed and we are working with them to make that happen," Lt. Col. Dave Lapan said. He said the network had agreed.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...pentagon_x.htm
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Has Geraldo issued an edict to the New England Patriots cautioning them about allowing Bill Belichick to wear his favorite sideline gear next season?

I now am convinced this whole case IS about race and the Sanford PD after all. Think of it this way. If Trayvon had been legally carrying, and Zimmerman was casually walking along (roles reversed), and the same thing happened, what would you have? Answer - a murdered innocent guy and another black guy in the pokey not likely to be heard from ever again.

Where is Zimmerman, by the way? Is he in Casey Anthony land? Is anyone speaking for him yet? If he's smart, he's long gone.


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Old 03-24-2012, 01:47 PM
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:20 PM
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I now am convinced this whole case IS about race and the Sanford PD after all. Think of it this way. If Trayvon had been legally carrying, and Zimmerman was casually walking along (roles reversed), and the same thing happened, what would you have? Answer - a murdered innocent guy and another black guy in the pokey not likely to be heard from ever again.
Now there are stories in various sources about three witnesses. Two that saw Zimmerman kneeling over an immobile Treyvon. And one that says Trayvon (100 pounds lighter than Zimmerman) was on top of Zimmerman, holding him down, while Zimmerman was screaming for help.

The police department dismissed the first two witnesses, and released Zimmerman based upon the third is the way the story is being told.

This is seriously crazy. Why isn't the guy simply arrested for manslaughter and booked, so the case will stop being tried in public, and associates of the case have to stop talking about it in public? What is wrong with this police department?

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Where is Zimmerman, by the way? Is he in Casey Anthony land? Is anyone speaking for him yet? If he's smart, he's long gone.
Some lawyer, who only said he was a "representative", showed up and said Zimmerman is hiding in fear of his life.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:38 PM
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How can any American human above the age of eight be this blindly ignorant? I guess it's the only way he can get media coverage now a days?

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Geraldo Rivera doubled down on his incendiary comments about Trayvon Martin during a Friday appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor," saying that hoodies reminded people of criminals like the Unabomber and thus put them in danger.

The Fox News host caused a firestorm on Friday morning when he said that Martin was shot to death in part because he was wearing a hoodie. "I'll bet you money, if he didn't have that hoodie on, that nutty neighborhood watch guy wouldn't have responded in that violent and aggressive way," he said.

Instant outrage, and a fair amount of ridicule, followed. Rivera admitted that his own son told him he was ashamed of him. But he stood staunchly behind his comments when speaking to O'Reilly. The two began talking about New York's controversial "stop and frisk" laws, which disproportionately affect people of color. Rivera said he supported the laws, and then brought up hoodies again.

"I'm telling you, half of it is the way the young men look," he said. "...If a cop looks at three kids on the corner, and they've got those hoodies up -- and this is where I got in trouble with the Trayvon Martin case -- if they've got those hoodies up, and they're hanging out on the corner, the cops look at them and say, 'Hmm, hoodies. Who else wears hoodies? Everybody that ever stuck up a convenience store, D.B. Cooper, the guy that hijacked a plane, Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber...'"

O'Reilly said supportively that Rivera was merely trying to protect people.

"Parents, don't let your kids go out wearing these damn hoodies!" Rivera continued. He called the negative association with the clothing "repugnant" but said it was "reality."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1377014.html
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:02 PM
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A Zimmerman attorney supposedly said he, zimmerman, has been mentoring a young black kid....
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How can any American human above the age of eight be this blindly ignorant? I guess it's the only way he can get media coverage now a days?

Give Geraldo a break, been out of the limelight for awhile...what better way to surface on the national scene than an appearance on O'rielly and dive in head first...
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Now there are stories in various sources about three witnesses. Two that saw Zimmerman kneeling over an immobile Treyvon. And one that says Trayvon (100 pounds lighter than Zimmerman) was on top of Zimmerman, holding him down, while Zimmerman was screaming for help.

The police department dismissed the first two witnesses, and released Zimmerman based upon the third is the way the story is being told.

This is seriously crazy. Why isn't the guy simply arrested for manslaughter and booked, so the case will stop being tried in public, and associates of the case have to stop talking about it in public? What is wrong with this police department?



Some lawyer, who only said he was a "representative", showed up and said Zimmerman is hiding in fear of his life.
Trayvon is 6'3 230lbs..big kid.. media needs some updated photo's...just sayin
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:29 PM
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Although Zimmerman does need to be arrested no question..
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Old 03-26-2012, 08:42 PM
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Trayvon is 6'3 230lbs..big kid.. media needs some updated photo's...just sayin
On the news tonite they said Trayvon is 6' 2' 140lbs...Zimmerman 5' 9' 220lbs..
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Now there are stories in various sources about three witnesses. Two that saw Zimmerman kneeling over an immobile Treyvon. And one that says Trayvon (100 pounds lighter than Zimmerman) was on top of Zimmerman, holding him down, while Zimmerman was screaming for help.

The police department dismissed the first two witnesses, and released Zimmerman based upon the third is the way the story is being told.

This is seriously crazy. Why isn't the guy simply arrested for manslaughter and booked, so the case will stop being tried in public, and associates of the case have to stop talking about it in public? What is wrong with this police department?



Some lawyer, who only said he was a "representative", showed up and said Zimmerman is hiding in fear of his life.
Amazing how you criticize someone for making comments alleging they could not possibly have knowlege that is supposedly within your expertise (when in reality it really is not), yet you have no problem jumping into the expertise of others while expressing an assumptive clueless position. Of course, we have become used to you accusing others of things that you constantly do yourself.

You have no concept of criminal law, the actual evidence authorities have in this case or what it takes to indict a person for manslaughter. It is foolish to come to the conclusions that you have without knowing exactly what the authorities know. Then again, it has never stopped you before.
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she stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night Pointman.

She's an expert on all matters.
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Amazing how you criticize someone for making comments alleging they could not possibly have knowlege that is supposedly within your expertise (when in reality it really is not),
Are you simply stupid and unable to read?

I wasn't criticizing the comments. I was saying that an arrest (even if they release him immediately on bond or recognizance) would enable to judge to stop all public comments, from both sides, and the trying of the case in public.

I made no comment on the veracity of anything, fool.
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