A Case of Why WI Voters Should Show ID

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Didn't the mining company pull out before the vote, due to decreasing ore prices?

Why yes, yes they did.

And yes, the vote, for those that voted no, had quite a bit to do with the environment.

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

Oh that is right our state was built on Mining. And yes it can actually be done with environmental protections under the proposed legislature. I am sure you are one that believes in things like we shouldn't develop a piece of land because their might be a butler snake that inhabits the area.

Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Oh that is right our state was built on Mining. And yes it can actually be done with environmental protections under the proposed legislature.

Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

Democracy. It's a good thing

I am sure you are one that believes in things like we shouldn't develop a piece of land because their might be a butler snake that inhabits the area.

You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.

Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite

Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

Democracy. It's a good thing



You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.



Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.

Please post your link showing that the company pulled out prior to the vote because of dropping ore prices. You went off on a tangent about walker. I would like your link please

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Please post your link showing that the company pulled out prior to the vote because of dropping ore prices. You went off on a tangent about walker. I would like your link please

You were the one that incorrectly was saying "wrong, wrong, wrong", thus you do your own homework. I'm not doing it for you. As I said, try the AP, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, etc. Try the press conference the CEO held before the vote.

As I said, Taconite could only make money at this project by the stripping of all the expensive environmental regs. That's what the bill was trying to do. That is why the bill exists. As soon as the GOP couldn't shove the bill through, the company said they wouldn't pursue it, as ore prices were rising as the wait was occurring. And then the vote came up against them, anyway.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

You were the one that incorrectly was saying "wrong, wrong, wrong", thus you do your own homework. I'm not doing it for you. As I said, try the AP, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, etc.

I didn't find it, but I did find this

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/142085663.html


Looks like the DNR even agrees with the Republicans. That is AMAZING!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

Still waiting for just one link showing that the mining company made their decision based on dropping ore prices before the vote.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

i looked it up since you kept mentioning it....from google:

Starting at the top of a shield on a dark blue field is the state motto "Forward". Below it is a badger the state animal. A sailor and miner show that the people work on water and land. The shield in the center shows Wisconsin's support for the United States. In four sections surrounding the shield are representations of the states main industries: Agriculture, mining, manufacturing and navigation. The cornucopia and pile of lead represent farm products and minerals. The flag law was amended in 1979 to include the name of the state and the date of statehood.

"Well...uh mining was popular back when women were treated poorly so that means it's evil"