A Case of Why WI Voters Should Show ID

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Reality check: didn't the mining company back out of this deal before this vote, to to falling ore prices?

Rendering the outcome of this vote only relevant to future efforts to destroy the environment in the name of "business"?

Again: Kudos to Schultz for protecting the environment from mining destruction and contamination, and Indian rivers from destruction. That doesn't matter to some. It matters greatly to the majority that voted against the removal of same.

Democracy - it hurts the plutocrats.

wrong, wrong and wrong again. Nice try. The vote had nothing to do with the environment. The mining company most likely will end up in the UP, which might as well be WI. Maybe you should read up. What is on the state flag? Have you looked at it yet?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

wrong, wrong and wrong again. Nice try. The vote had nothing to do with the environment. The mining company most likely will end up in the UP, which might as well be WI. Maybe you should read up. What is on the state flag? Have you looked at it yet?

Didn't the mining company pull out before the vote, due to decreasing ore prices?

Why yes, yes they did.

Taconite can't make money unless Wisconsin legislators remove environmental protections, thus decreasing costs to the company, and giving them a free walk to mine without repercussion for their destruction. And ore prices are falling, making the company not want to go ahead even if the law was passed.

And yes, the vote, for those that voted no, had quite a bit to do with the environment. You see, some people actually do care about that. I know that's hard for you to understand, that some are positive removing regulations regarding safety and environmental contamination protections really matters.

You chose your side - the side of destruction. The majority chose the other side. Thank goodness. That's democracy. Yes, plutocrats and dictators hate that.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Didn't the mining company pull out before the vote, due to decreasing ore prices?

Why yes, yes they did.

And yes, the vote, for those that voted no, had quite a bit to do with the environment.

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

Oh that is right our state was built on Mining. And yes it can actually be done with environmental protections under the proposed legislature. I am sure you are one that believes in things like we shouldn't develop a piece of land because their might be a butler snake that inhabits the area.

Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Oh that is right our state was built on Mining. And yes it can actually be done with environmental protections under the proposed legislature.

Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

Democracy. It's a good thing

I am sure you are one that believes in things like we shouldn't develop a piece of land because their might be a butler snake that inhabits the area.

You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.

Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite

Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

Democracy. It's a good thing



You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.



Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.

Please post your link showing that the company pulled out prior to the vote because of dropping ore prices. You went off on a tangent about walker. I would like your link please

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

For christs sake - you google, and read the press conference the CEO of the company gave a couple days ago.

You might worry less about what is on the state flag, and more about what the Republicans want to put into the water you drink.

Still waiting for just one link showing that the mining company made their decision based on dropping ore prices before the vote.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Show me where the company pulled out before the vote. Google it and you will find a number of articles that state differently

Can you answer my question? What is on the Wisconsin State Flag?

i looked it up since you kept mentioning it....from google:

Starting at the top of a shield on a dark blue field is the state motto "Forward". Below it is a badger the state animal. A sailor and miner show that the people work on water and land. The shield in the center shows Wisconsin's support for the United States. In four sections surrounding the shield are representations of the states main industries: Agriculture, mining, manufacturing and navigation. The cornucopia and pile of lead represent farm products and minerals. The flag law was amended in 1979 to include the name of the state and the date of statehood.

"Well...uh mining was popular back when women were treated poorly so that means it's evil"