Timmy Ice Tebow...

Cannon Shell · #1 12-08-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is probably going to come off wrong, but whatever. I think you are on the right track, but I don't think it's a race thing. It's the "aww shucks, I'm a really nice guy and a virgin" thing that makes people rabid about Tebow.

He's that really, really nice guy in high school that all of the girls LOVED, but wouldn't sleep with if their life depended on it and vice versa. The only difference is instead of being in the drama club, he was playing football. People fawn all over him because he acts like they want to off the field, but don't because it's a hell of a lot more fun not to. And Bayless loves him because they are both religious nuts.

It should be interesting to see how the next year or so unfolds.

Remember A.C. Green? If you do it probably isnt because of his on court play

Danzig · #2 12-08-2011, 09:33 PM

i think tebow gets a lot of attention for several reasons. he's not an athlete that you'll ever see in legal trouble, apparently a lot of women would want someone like him for their daughter. than there's the fact that even tho all the talking heads said he would never make it, that he didn't have the talent, etc, etc, he's been able to lead his team to how many wins now?
cam newton gets a lot of attention, because he has a lot of talent. but that has faded a bit the last few weeks because tebow is winning these games, cam isn't. you can have all the skill in the world, but it's still a team sport.

i have no doubt that people can relate to tebow. and many appreciate someone who just won't stop trying, who won't quit, who works his ass off.
i didn't have much use for tebow when he was in college, but his work ethic is something to be admired. he may never win a super bowl, or go to the pro bowl, or end up in the hall of fame, but you have to appreciate someone with a positive attitude who just wants to win, and works like a dog to do it.

ateamstupid · #3 12-08-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i have no doubt that people can relate to tebow. and many appreciate someone who just won't stop trying, who won't quit, who works his ass off.
i didn't have much use for tebow when he was in college, but his work ethic is something to be admired. he may never win a super bowl, or go to the pro bowl, or end up in the hall of fame, but you have to appreciate someone with a positive attitude who just wants to win, and works like a dog to do it.

This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.

Cannon Shell · #4 12-08-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.

That's not true

ateamstupid · #5 12-08-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That's not true

Do you have any idea how hard it is to be an NFL player?

Cannon Shell · #6 12-08-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you have any idea how hard it is to be an NFL player?

Hell Chris Carter said it the other day Money and memories, that is what you play for. I know guys, I have heard stories and there is no reason to believe that they arent credible. It really isnt any different in any of the big pro sports. We may not like it as fans but they are mostly playing for the money. The NFL has very few guaranteed contracts. Players look what happened to Forte.

Danzig · #7 12-09-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.

not necessarily. tebow could have taken the money and been happy to be on the sidelines. from what i've read/heard he's the first one on the field, the last one off. primadonna players get a lot of attention-sitting out, not reporting for camp, working out with their own trainers, showing up overweight or out of shape.
and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.

Antitrust32 · #8 12-09-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.

why do you have to bring up the Eagles??

3kings · #9 12-09-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.

I don't agree with this. Smiling and shaking hands with the other team after the game,
has nothing to do with whether you played hard or tried your @ss off. Nothing at all.

Danzig · #10 12-09-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

I don't agree with this. Smiling and shaking hands with the other team after the game,
has nothing to do with whether you played hard or tried your @ss off. Nothing at all.

there's saying 'good game' and exhibiting good sportsmanship and then there's just not caring. these spoiled athletes care if they get paid, some care if the win but most just care that they get paid. contracts be damned, if they have a good season they hold out for more money whether they have a five year deal or not. have a less than stellar season, what do you think the reaction would be if the owner tried to pay them less?

horseofcourse · #11 12-09-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

there's saying 'good game' and exhibiting good sportsmanship and then there's just not caring. these spoiled athletes care if they get paid, some care if the win but most just care that they get paid. contracts be damned, if they have a good season they hold out for more money whether they have a five year deal or not. have a less than stellar season, what do you think the reaction would be if the owner tried to pay them less?

I thought standard operating procedure was you blow up a company you leave and get 30 or 40 million bonus for your destruction and walking away. These pro athletes just following the examples of those above them!!

MaTH716 · #12 12-09-2011, 08:56 AM

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

3kings · #13 12-09-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

The rest of the NFL is having fun with it:

After the media dispersed from his locker, Roethlisberger limped slowly to the trainer's room. He was going to get outfitted for a walking boot. On Friday, he'll have an MRI to find how bad the injury is.As Roethlisberger hobbled by like an old man, Tomlin shouted at him from a side door."Ben, that was magical, man!" he said, laughing. "That was Tebow-like!"

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/12/09/1...20&feedID=3725

Clip-Clop · #14 12-09-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

He is getting all the coverage he gets because he (and the rest of the team) has made everyone one of them look like idiots for the coverage he got early on and the producers must love it.
Even Steve Young was recanting his statements of disbelief from the first few starts.