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Old 12-08-2011, 03:04 PM
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I dont think race has anything to do with it.

I believe its purely record.. with Newton not playing for anything but experience this season.. and Tebow with playoffs on the line.

Also the enigma that surrounds Tim Tebow (christian boy with the unorthadox throwing motion who most NFL big wigs thought would fail) is what is bringing him all the attention.

I may be wrong, but I think thats what ateam was talking about.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:08 PM
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I may be wrong, but I think thats what ateam was talking about.
i think that is what he was talking about also.. I do disagree though.


Also to Clip Clop's point about Newton vs Tebow.

I believe there is a massive difference in playing in the NFC South compared to the AFC West. Oakland is the only competitive team in that division and they are trending downward.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:10 PM
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i think that is what he was talking about also.. I do disagree though.


Also to Clip Clop's point about Newton vs Tebow.

I believe there is a massive difference in playing in the NFC South compared to the AFC West. Oakland is the only competitive team in that division and they are trending downward.
Bolts were most people's third or fourth best team in the AFC beginning of the year.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
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Bolts were most people's third or fourth best team in the AFC beginning of the year.
Dude the Eagles were the superbowl favorites with the Packers at the beginning of the year. Football ratings prior to football being played is just rhetoric.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:27 PM
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Dude the Eagles were the superbowl favorites with the Packers at the beginning of the year. Football ratings prior to football being played is just rhetoric.
I know that, just kidding. Obviously there is no comparison between the divisions. At least we have to assume that since they aren't playing each other until next year.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:15 PM
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I may be wrong, but I think thats what ateam was talking about.
You honestly think if Tebow were black he'd be getting half the coverage he's getting?
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:22 PM
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You honestly think if Tebow were black he'd be getting half the coverage he's getting?
he'd get 2x as much if he was muslim and tebowing to mecca every td.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:30 PM
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he'd get 2x as much if he was muslim and tebowing to mecca every td.
He'd be in Guantanamo by now.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:31 PM
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You honestly think if Tebow were black he'd be getting half the coverage he's getting?
This is probably going to come off wrong, but whatever. I think you are on the right track, but I don't think it's a race thing. It's the "aww shucks, I'm a really nice guy and a virgin" thing that makes people rabid about Tebow.

He's that really, really nice guy in high school that all of the girls LOVED, but wouldn't sleep with if their life depended on it and vice versa. The only difference is instead of being in the drama club, he was playing football. People fawn all over him because he acts like they want to off the field, but don't because it's a hell of a lot more fun not to. And Bayless loves him because they are both religious nuts.

It should be interesting to see how the next year or so unfolds.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:25 PM
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This is probably going to come off wrong, but whatever. I think you are on the right track, but I don't think it's a race thing. It's the "aww shucks, I'm a really nice guy and a virgin" thing that makes people rabid about Tebow.

He's that really, really nice guy in high school that all of the girls LOVED, but wouldn't sleep with if their life depended on it and vice versa. The only difference is instead of being in the drama club, he was playing football. People fawn all over him because he acts like they want to off the field, but don't because it's a hell of a lot more fun not to. And Bayless loves him because they are both religious nuts.

It should be interesting to see how the next year or so unfolds.
Remember A.C. Green? If you do it probably isnt because of his on court play
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:33 PM
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i think tebow gets a lot of attention for several reasons. he's not an athlete that you'll ever see in legal trouble, apparently a lot of women would want someone like him for their daughter. than there's the fact that even tho all the talking heads said he would never make it, that he didn't have the talent, etc, etc, he's been able to lead his team to how many wins now?
cam newton gets a lot of attention, because he has a lot of talent. but that has faded a bit the last few weeks because tebow is winning these games, cam isn't. you can have all the skill in the world, but it's still a team sport.

i have no doubt that people can relate to tebow. and many appreciate someone who just won't stop trying, who won't quit, who works his ass off.
i didn't have much use for tebow when he was in college, but his work ethic is something to be admired. he may never win a super bowl, or go to the pro bowl, or end up in the hall of fame, but you have to appreciate someone with a positive attitude who just wants to win, and works like a dog to do it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:39 PM
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i have no doubt that people can relate to tebow. and many appreciate someone who just won't stop trying, who won't quit, who works his ass off.
i didn't have much use for tebow when he was in college, but his work ethic is something to be admired. he may never win a super bowl, or go to the pro bowl, or end up in the hall of fame, but you have to appreciate someone with a positive attitude who just wants to win, and works like a dog to do it.
This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:28 PM
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This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.
That's not true
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Old 12-09-2011, 05:56 AM
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This is meaningless and could be used to describe 99% of NFL players. There aren't a lot of lazy slugs who don't give two craps about winning in the NFL.
not necessarily. tebow could have taken the money and been happy to be on the sidelines. from what i've read/heard he's the first one on the field, the last one off. primadonna players get a lot of attention-sitting out, not reporting for camp, working out with their own trainers, showing up overweight or out of shape.
and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:51 PM
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Remember A.C. Green? If you do it probably isnt because of his on court play
He's probably still a virgin. And he has to be about 50 now.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:28 PM
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He's probably still a virgin. And he has to be about 50 now.
He did finally get married so he isnt getting any anymore
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:32 PM
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He's probably still a virgin. And he has to be about 50 now.
He had a pretty cool jerry curl though.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:17 PM
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This is probably going to come off wrong, but whatever. I think you are on the right track, but I don't think it's a race thing. It's the "aww shucks, I'm a really nice guy and a virgin" thing that makes people rabid about Tebow.

He's that really, really nice guy in high school that all of the girls LOVED, but wouldn't sleep with if their life depended on it and vice versa. The only difference is instead of being in the drama club, he was playing football. People fawn all over him because he acts like they want to off the field, but don't because it's a hell of a lot more fun not to. And Bayless loves him because they are both religious nuts.

It should be interesting to see how the next year or so unfolds.

I dont think hes a virgin, did he actually say that?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:39 PM
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I dont think hes a virgin, did he actually say that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS8qqNnR3aM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...4&sportCat=ncf

If he can get through his college years at that school, while being one of the most talked about college players ever...and not get laid by choice, he really might be a saint. I mean, the 3rd string center at Hudson Valley is probably getting laid just for the jersey.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:42 PM
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lol cool link. I guess he is.
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